Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Manuel Bouyer
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:13:38PM +, David Brownlee wrote: > A variant would be to have syslog in /sbin and have a way to nudge it > later in startup to load a shared library from usr/lib which includes > all the network code... But I would prefer your syslogd + > syslogd-network split :) +1

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 09:21:23PM +, Roy Marples wrote: > To fix this, I suggest that we split syslogd into syslogd and syslogd-network. We could also do a much simpler and more radical decision and stop splitting / and /usr. Of all the partitioning choices available, it truely seems to be a

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Martin Husemann
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:33:22AM +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 09:21:23PM +, Roy Marples wrote: > > To fix this, I suggest that we split syslogd into syslogd and > > syslogd-network. > > We could also do a much simpler and more radical decision and stop > splitt

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Michael van Elst
mar...@duskware.de (Martin Husemann) writes: >> splitting / and /usr. Of all the partitioning choices available, it >> truely seems to be a pointless legacy from extremely constrained >> hardware with a significant cost to maintain. >However, we still support a lot of this hardware and often ther

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article , David Brownlee wrote: >On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 21:21, Roy Marples wrote: >> >> syslogd is a powerful syslog implementation. >> It supports authenticated and encrypted TLS connections and signing messages. >> Because of this it lives in /usr due to the libraries it needs. >> /usr trad

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:33:22AM +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 09:21:23PM +, Roy Marples wrote: > > To fix this, I suggest that we split syslogd into syslogd and > > syslogd-network. > > We could also do a much simpler and more radical decision and stop > splitt

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Alexander Nasonov
Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:33:22AM +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 09:21:23PM +, Roy Marples wrote: > > > To fix this, I suggest that we split syslogd into syslogd and > > > syslogd-network. > > > > We could also do a much simpler and

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Kamil Rytarowski
On 29.01.2020 22:32, Alexander Nasonov wrote: > Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:33:22AM +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 09:21:23PM +, Roy Marples wrote: To fix this, I suggest that we split syslogd into syslogd and syslogd-network

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Piotr Meyer
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 09:32:30PM +, Alexander Nasonov wrote: [...] > I like it when fsck doesn't take ages to check /. With bigger /, > it's going to be problematic. IMVHO moving /usr/bin, /usr/sbin and /usr/lib to / is reasonable, and it will not lead to excessive growth of / - but /usr sh

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:33:56 - (UTC) From:chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) Message-ID: | Having a split /usr makes little sense today though as joerg mentioned, | even in the space-constrained systems. Space constraints may have once been the primary m

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-29 Thread Aleksey Cheusov
29.01.2020, 00:21, "Roy Marples" : > syslogd is a powerful syslog implementation. > It supports authenticated and encrypted TLS connections and signing messages. > Because of this it lives in /usr due to the libraries it needs. > /usr traditionally depends on mountcritremote which in turn relies