Re: Upgrade from netbsd-9 to netbsd-10 potentially breaks ZFS mounts

2023-12-21 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 20:09, David Brownlee wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 19:35, Chuck Silvers wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:13:03AM +0000, David Brownlee wrote: > > > It looks like that between netbsd-9 and netbsd-10 the order of ZFS > &

Re: Upgrade from netbsd-9 to netbsd-10 potentially breaks ZFS mounts

2023-12-11 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 19:35, Chuck Silvers wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:13:03AM +, David Brownlee wrote: > > It looks like that between netbsd-9 and netbsd-10 the order of ZFS > > mounts vs fstab has changed. > > > > I've just upgraded a s

Upgrade from netbsd-9 to netbsd-10 potentially breaks ZFS mounts

2023-11-22 Thread David Brownlee
It looks like that between netbsd-9 and netbsd-10 the order of ZFS mounts vs fstab has changed. I've just upgraded a system which had ffs filesystems for / & /home, and a zfs pool on /home/files Before the upgrade the mount order was / (ffs) /home (ffs) /home/files (zfs) after upgrade the exact

Re: [PATCH] HTTPS/TLS CA certificates in base

2023-08-20 Thread David Brownlee
There was a previous thread that mooted the idea of using the project built mozilla-rootcerts packages (which are just tarfiles) as the source for some mechanism to populate on-system certificates, such as your proposed certctl. (mozilla-rootcerts is the base package which just populates into PREFI

Re: Architecture neutral packages (mozilla-rootcerts-openssl)

2023-08-04 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 08:43, Martin Husemann wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 02:31:39PM +, John Klos wrote: > > How it ultimately happens is up to people who understand things better than > > I do, but what whould be lovely to see would be: > > > > 1) a way to install rootcerts in sysinst >

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 18:19, wrote: > > Le Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 03:08:25PM +0100, David Brownlee a écrit : > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 15:03, Martin Husemann wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 02:30:14PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > > > drm/km

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 15:03, Martin Husemann wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 02:30:14PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > drm/kms definitely is hugely complicated, overly Linux focussed, and > > difficult to maintain and update. A lot of effort has been put into > > get

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 12:02, wrote: > > Le Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 03:31:13PM -0400, Mouse a écrit : > > > 4. And of course, GPU is hard. [...] > > > > This is true. > > > > I know someone who works on GPU support _with_ the benefit of NDAed > > documentation. He says typical GPUs have documentatio

Re: [CODE] inetd FINAL

2023-07-03 Thread David Brownlee
Some random thoughts :) - Would it make sense to actively reject -l or similar when -c is given - Resilient mode would probably benefit from a new {sub ,}section heading in the man page - I'd be inclined to reject a config which tries to embed a null with \000 or similar with an error David

Re: inetd(8): continue or exit on error?

2023-05-29 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 29 May 2023 at 11:38, Michael van Elst wrote: > > tlaro...@polynum.com writes: > > >If inetd is not running, if the administrator doesn't look at the logs, > > That's why people monitor services and logs and use manual or > automated procedures to validate and deploy configuration changes.

Re: vacation(1) addition

2023-04-13 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 11:06, Hauke Fath wrote: > > At 13:55 Uhr +0200 06.04.2023, Hauke Fath wrote: > >Gitlab added "Auto-Submitted: auto-generated" to its mail, which > >vacation(1) does not check for, but only "Precedence:". vacation will, > >on the other hand, set "Auto-Submitted: auto-generat

Re: shutdown sequence and UPS poweroff

2023-01-11 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 at 23:28, Greg Troxel wrote: > > David Brownlee writes: > > > If only we had a reliable way to remount filesystems from read-write > > to readonly after flushing data, that could be an option on shutdown, > > then the ups command could be triggered w

Re: shutdown sequence and UPS poweroff

2023-01-09 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 at 20:30, David Holland wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2023 at 10:13:36AM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: > > Does it seem reasonably safe that mountall through root will be fast, < > 10s? > > We've been seeing scattered reports of unmounting taking fast amounts > of time, particularly

Re: sh(1) and ksh(1) default PATH

2022-08-17 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 at 03:13, Robert Elz wrote: > > The normal default path for sh comes from sysctl user.cs_path > and if there was a desire to alter that, that would be the place to > do it (as in, by setting that in /etc/sysctl.conf). This seems like a critical fulcrum we already have. If so,

Re: sh: killing a pipe head from the tail

2021-12-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 at 16:38, Edgar Fuß wrote: > > Is there a sane way to kill a pipe's head from within the pipe's tail, at > least on tail exit? Of course, when the tail exits, the head will get SIGPIPE > as soon > as it tries to output something, but can the tail explicitly kill it earlier? C

Re: Trouble setting LC_CTYPE in a pared down chroot

2021-10-19 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 at 14:54, John Marino (NetBSD) wrote: > > I've put together a system root based on a minimalist subset of the > NetBSD 9.2/AMD64 release. It's working fine except for one small > problem with locales. > > These are the complete contents of /usr/share/locale in that system root

Re: recent changes to pthread_fork.c:fork() cause static linking to fail if the app provides its own malloc()

2020-07-16 Thread David Brownlee
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 15:40, Christos Zoulas wrote: > > In article <7171.1594774...@splode.eterna.com.au>, > matthew green wrote: > >Martin Husemann writes: > >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 02:49:00AM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > >> > Replacing malloc is just as invalid from a strict standard

Re: postinstall removed yet another "obsolete" system library that was still used....

2020-06-30 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 21:21, Christos Zoulas wrote: > > In article , > Greg A. Woods wrote: > >-=-=-=-=-=- > > > >So I just upgraded a system from an old 8.99 -current to a newer 9.99 > >current and "postinstall fix obsolete" removed my /usr/lib/libgomp.so.1* > > > >However this library was stil

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-28 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 21:21, Roy Marples wrote: > > syslogd is a powerful syslog implementation. > It supports authenticated and encrypted TLS connections and signing messages. > Because of this it lives in /usr due to the libraries it needs. > /usr traditionally depends on mountcritremote which

Re: Weirdness in /bin/sh of 8.0

2018-08-14 Thread David Brownlee
On 14 August 2018 at 16:53, Robert Elz wrote: > > > | You mean "need to be fixed in the script" or "need to be fixed in sh"? > > Fixed in the script. Not things which would stop it working, just stuff > done the wrong way. > > Eg: somewhere in there I saw > somevar="$@" > > "$@" only h

Re: non-root ntpd

2017-06-30 Thread David Brownlee
On 29 June 2017 at 10:02, Roy Marples wrote: > On 29/06/2017 02:06, Taylor R Campbell wrote: >>> we've been able to run ntpd as non-root for a while. this is not the >>> default if you innocently ntpd=yes in rc.conf. it requires >>> /dev/clockctl, and most things have it, even one of the sun2 kern

Re: Possible issue with vnd

2017-05-01 Thread David Brownlee
On 30 April 2017 at 19:52, D'Arcy Cain wrote: > I can't cut and paste the commands I did but I think that the following is > accurate. > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=xubuntu bs=1 seek=100g count=1 > # mke2fs xubuntu (from pkgsrc) > # vndconfig -l (to get an available slot) > # mount_ext2fs /dev/vnd2a /m

Re: PaX MPROTECT gdb and software breakpoints

2016-05-21 Thread David Brownlee
On 21 May 2016 at 21:21, Christos Zoulas wrote: > > Hello, > > Now that PaX MPROTECT is the default on 3 platforms (amd64, i386, and evbarm) > the problem of software breakpoints and gdb has surfaced. Namely if MPROTECT > is on, and you try to set a breakpoint you get: > > (gdb) break main > Break

Re: Teaching Apropos to Rank

2016-05-12 Thread David Brownlee
On 7 May 2016 at 20:56, Abhinav Upadhyay wrote: > Hi All, > > From man-k.org I was able to create a small dataset of queries, > results and their relevance scores. I am working on trying out some > machine learning models to improve the ranking algorithm of > apropos(1). > > Currently apropos has