Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread tlaronde
Le Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 08:02:22PM +0100, David Brownlee a écrit : > On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 18:19, wrote: > > > > Le Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 03:08:25PM +0100, David Brownlee a écrit : > > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 15:03, Martin Husemann wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 02:30:14PM +0100, D

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 18:19, wrote: > > Le Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 03:08:25PM +0100, David Brownlee a écrit : > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 15:03, Martin Husemann wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 02:30:14PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > > > drm/kms definitely is hugely complicated, overly L

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread tlaronde
Le Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 03:08:25PM +0100, David Brownlee a écrit : > On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 15:03, Martin Husemann wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 02:30:14PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > > drm/kms definitely is hugely complicated, overly Linux focussed, and > > > difficult to maintain an

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread Martin Husemann
On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 03:08:25PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > So far some good changes (cribbing shamelessly from other suggestions) might > be: > - Implement "boot -D" (or similar) to boot with all DRM disabled, to > make it easier for hardware with issues That should be quite easy. > - All

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 15:03, Martin Husemann wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 02:30:14PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > > drm/kms definitely is hugely complicated, overly Linux focussed, and > > difficult to maintain and update. A lot of effort has been put into > > getting it to run on NetBSD (

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread Martin Husemann
On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 02:30:14PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > drm/kms definitely is hugely complicated, overly Linux focussed, and > difficult to maintain and update. A lot of effort has been put into > getting it to run on NetBSD (and updating from previous versions), but > it's currently the

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread David Brownlee
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 12:02, wrote: > > Le Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 03:31:13PM -0400, Mouse a écrit : > > > 4. And of course, GPU is hard. [...] > > > > This is true. > > > > I know someone who works on GPU support _with_ the benefit of NDAed > > documentation. He says typical GPUs have documentatio

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread tlaronde
Le Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 05:57:01PM +, Bruno Melo a écrit : > > What is frightening me now, is that the impressive amount of work needed > > to make the thing "work", and only temporarily, is a work that will > > be lost because the code base will continue to evolve (not to say: > > dissolve...)

Re: DRM/KMS

2023-07-07 Thread tlaronde
Le Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 03:31:13PM -0400, Mouse a écrit : > > 4. And of course, GPU is hard. [...] > > This is true. > > I know someone who works on GPU support _with_ the benefit of NDAed > documentation. He says typical GPUs have documentation errata lists > substantially longer than the docu