Re: Shipping SSL certificates in the base system

2017-07-02 Thread Greg Troxel
Benny Siegert writes: > The question of root certificates for OpenSSL in base came up recently > in pkgsrc. That got me thinking: why does NetBSD not come with a set > of certificates in the base system? The set that mozilla-rootcerts > delivers would be a reasonable thing to put there, because

Re: Shipping SSL certificates in the base system

2017-07-02 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 07/03/17 03:01, David Holland wrote: > On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 12:56:38AM +, Emmanuel Dreyfus wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 12:45:17AM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > > > The only problem I see is that outdated timezone data doesn't > > > necessarily have a real world impact. Outd

Re: randomness (crypto?) code example wanted please?

2017-07-02 Thread David Holland
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 03:28:59PM +0200, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > On 25.06.2017 14:06, Martin Husemann wrote: > > You can also read random bytes from /dev/urandom. > > Right this is the most portable solution right now. I don't think > RANDOM_BITS or similar is currently useful, it will gro

Re: Shipping SSL certificates in the base system

2017-07-02 Thread David Holland
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 12:56:38AM +, Emmanuel Dreyfus wrote: > On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 12:45:17AM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > > The only problem I see is that outdated timezone data doesn't > > necessarily have a real world impact. Outdated root CAs can. > > Most of the time, outd

Re: Shipping SSL certificates in the base system

2017-07-02 Thread Emmanuel Dreyfus
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 12:45:17AM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > The only problem I see is that outdated timezone data doesn't > necessarily have a real world impact. Outdated root CAs can. Most of the time, outdated things in a system is dangerous. Known security vulnearbilities accumulate

Re: Shipping SSL certificates in the base system

2017-07-02 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 05:27:06PM +0100, Benny Siegert wrote: > agc made the argument that including certificates is similar to > including time zone data, which we do. We do not tell users to install > a package to use non-UTC timezones, for instance. The only problem I see is that outdated time

Shipping SSL certificates in the base system

2017-07-02 Thread Benny Siegert
The question of root certificates for OpenSSL in base came up recently in pkgsrc. That got me thinking: why does NetBSD not come with a set of certificates in the base system? The set that mozilla-rootcerts delivers would be a reasonable thing to put there, because (a) that’s what literally eve