Re: [lopsa-tech] Darwinian IT

2015-09-09 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: John Stoffel [mailto:j...@stoffel.org] > > I think the root cause of your failure here is that you assume ONE > full backup is all you need. Instead you should be keeping multiple > full backups instead. Oh - heheheh. At any given time, I have a full backup on the attached disk, and I h

Re: [lopsa-tech] Darwinian IT

2015-09-09 Thread Skylar Thompson
Another way to look at this issue would be that backup frequency and retention should be orthogonal. When and how you run a backup shouldn't change the fact that the existing data should be retained for however long the original policy stated. Skylar On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:21 AM, John Stoffel

Re: [lopsa-tech] Darwinian IT

2015-09-09 Thread John Stoffel
> "Edward" == Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) writes: >> From: tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org] >> On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) >> >> Just before midnight, I destroyed the machine. And then I started doing the >> restore. Guess what time the backup scr

Re: [lopsa-tech] Darwinian IT

2015-09-08 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org] > On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) > > Just before midnight, I destroyed the machine. And then I started doing the > restore. Guess what time the backup script runs? Midnight. Guess what its > behavior is? It notices

[lopsa-tech] Darwinian IT

2015-09-08 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
Thought you'd all enjoy hearing about my pain. ;-) I have a VM, which is regularly backed up via block level snapshot. It started failing - would not boot, complained about filesystem not cleanly unmounted - so I decided to restore it from backup. Just before midnight, I destroyed the machine.