Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Andrew Hume
i was imprecise. my situation is high bandwidth, secure and low latency. but i have the gist. On May 4, 2011, at 4:07 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: > On Wed, 4 May 2011, Andrew Hume wrote: > >> it is time for my annual head-slapping over scp. >> >> is there any plausible alternative to scp? mostly

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Gary Pitman
On 5/4/2011 8:02 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: > > how can rsync change the permissions on the far side? (it can make the > permissions match the sending side, but so can scp -p) > This works: rsync -rhzp --size-only --progress -e ssh --chmod=Dg+rws,Do-rwx,Fg+rw,Fo-rwx /dir/stuff/ $u...@other.machine.

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Yves Dorfsman
On 11-05-04 09:33 PM, Andrew Hume wrote: > > although i am still contemplating the perverse notion of rsyn tunneling > through ssh. > What is perverse in using rsync over ssh? -- Yves. http://www.SollerS.ca/

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Andrew Hume
sarcasm??? you know, our foundation architecture mandates scp or connect:direct. talk about rocks and hard places. although i am still contemplating the perverse notion of rsyn tunneling through ssh. On May 4, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> "Andrew" == Andrew Hume writes:

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Andrew Hume
exactly. the sending side knows when its done, but not the receiving side. and many systems have a receiving directory, often called a loading dock, where someone scans for new files, and they can't tell between a complete file or a partial file. rsync's solution is fine, in that it disguises the

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Andrew" == Andrew Hume writes: Andrew> it is time for my annual head-slapping over scp. You mean people still use scp instead of rsync? Who knew? :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix co

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
I'm sorry, I don't see the problem. You mean you have scp transferring a file, and outside of scp you have some 3rd party tool constantly polling the existence of the file to see if it's there and if it's completed yet? I would normally say "Wait for scp to finish. When scp exits then you

Re: [lopsa-tech] Open Source Monitoring and Reporting system ?

2011-05-04 Thread Nick Anderson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/04/2011 07:08 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: > On 04/21/11 01:50, Alexios Zavras wrote: >> Hello, all. >> >> Which of the many Monitoring and Reporting systems out there >> would you recommend for setting for a non-network/computer metric ? Being

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
On Wed, 4 May 2011 17:02:47 -0700 (PDT), da...@lang.hm wrote: > I don't see how rsync meets his requirements. > > how can rsync trigger an action on the far side after the file has > completed? > > how can rsync change the permissions on the far side? (it can make > the > permissions match the se

Re: [lopsa-tech] Open Source Monitoring and Reporting system ?

2011-05-04 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On 04/21/11 01:50, Alexios Zavras wrote: > Hello, all. > > Which of the many Monitoring and Reporting systems out there > would you recommend for setting for a non-network/computer metric ? > > In the past I've used a couple of (open-source) > monitoring systems like Nagios and Cacti, > and I've in

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Doug Hughes
On 5/4/2011 8:02 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: > On Wed, 4 May 2011, Doug Hughes wrote: > >> another vote for rsync, it fits your requirements. (also unison if you >> need it to work in either direction with the possibility of editing on >> either side) > > I don't see how rsync meets his requirements.

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread John SJ Anderson
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 20:02, wrote: > I don't see how rsync meets his requirements. > > how can rsync trigger an action on the far side after the file has > completed? > > how can rsync change the permissions on the far side? (it can make the > permissions match the sending side, but so can scp

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread david
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Doug Hughes wrote: > another vote for rsync, it fits your requirements. (also unison if you > need it to work in either direction with the possibility of editing on > either side) I don't see how rsync meets his requirements. how can rsync trigger an action on the far side af

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Doug Hughes
another vote for rsync, it fits your requirements. (also unison if you need it to work in either direction with the possibility of editing on either side) ___ Tech mailing list Tech@lists.lopsa.org https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech T

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng.
Back when I was having trouble reliably scp'ng between work and a remote site...I had replaced scp with an alias to: 'rsync --partial --progress --rsh="ssh"', and even now that I haven't been having those troubles anymore...I still use it. And, call it twice so it can tell me that it didn't do

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Andrew Hume wrote: > it is time for my annual head-slapping over scp. > is there any plausible alternative to scp? mostly its all fine, > but i am struggling over having to do an additional ssh > afterwards to confirm teh file got there (or to let > the other side k

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
On Wed, 4 May 2011 15:54:27 -0700, Andrew Hume wrote: > it is time for my annual head-slapping over scp. > > is there any plausible alternative to scp? mostly its all fine, > but i am struggling over having to do an additional ssh > afterwards to confirm teh file got there (or to let > the other s

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread John SJ Anderson
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 18:54, Andrew Hume wrote: > any reasonable command would do something with the file modes > or (like ftp) allow you to rename the file (say from foo! to foo) after the > copy finished. rsync will do atomic file replacement, if that's what you're after, and can be tunneled o

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread david
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Andrew Hume wrote: it is time for my annual head-slapping over scp. is there any plausible alternative to scp? mostly its all fine, but i am struggling over having to do an additional ssh afterwards to confirm teh file got there (or to let the other side know its done). any

Re: [lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread n...@cmdln.org
Andrew Hume wrote: it is time for my annual head-slapping over scp. is there any plausible alternative to scp? mostly its all fine, but i am struggling over having to do an additional ssh afterwards to confirm teh file got there (or to let the other side know its done). any reasonable comm

[lopsa-tech] scp

2011-05-04 Thread Andrew Hume
it is time for my annual head-slapping over scp. is there any plausible alternative to scp? mostly its all fine, but i am struggling over having to do an additional ssh afterwards to confirm teh file got there (or to let the other side know its done). any reasonable command would do something wit

Re: [lopsa-tech] Enable wifi access in (Japanese) hotel with no wifi service

2011-05-04 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org] > On Behalf Of Will Dennis > > Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing, and can suggest > which solution may be the best, and additionally recommend equipment to > enable this? Airport Express. Because it's so