RE: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-18 Thread Konstantin Ignatyev
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:49 PM > To: Tapestry users > Subject: RE: Kickstart 0.2 released > > > Session per request is the simplest > and most efficient approach in many cases and it does not > require Java 5. Please look at the barebone

Re: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-18 Thread Ted Steen
e it a cooler name > and add all kinds of good stuff from Jesse's toolbox (integration for > remoting, jms, drools, and more). > > > -Original Message- > > From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:49 PM >

RE: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-17 Thread Schulte Marcus
PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:49 PM > To: Tapestry users > Subject: RE: Kickstart 0.2 released > > > Session per request is the simplest > and most efficient approach in many cases and it does not > require Java 5. Please look

RE: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-17 Thread Konstantin Ignatyev
Session per request is the simplest and most efficient approach in many cases and it does not require Java 5. Please look at the barebone implementation with CGLib alone: http://sandbox.sourcelabs.com/kosta/hibernate-bhw/java/com/sourcelabs/hibernate/bhw/haop/doc/haop.ht

Re: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-17 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
Yeah, definitely. Marcus's code is very good. It feels like we've found a keeper. I think we can all agree that having an integration point similar to SEAM would be a huge help in dropping the barrier to using tapestry. On 1/17/06, Chris Chiappone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jesse is the tacos

Re: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Chiappone
Jesse is the tacos guy, and I think he meant kickstart vs hivetrans when he was talking about competition. On 1/17/06, Ted Steen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oups! > just read about the property-persistence-strategy "conversation" > so the cache size would not be a problem. > nice.. > > On 1/17/06

Re: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-17 Thread Ted Steen
oups! just read about the property-persistence-strategy "conversation" so the cache size would not be a problem. nice.. On 1/17/06, Ted Steen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi! > > I think the generic data access objects on the hibernate page could be > usefull as they, among other things, support a

Re: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-17 Thread Ted Steen
hi! I think the generic data access objects on the hibernate page could be usefull as they, among other things, support a generic way to specify the id (not only long). One thing that I come to think about regarding the session-per-conversation pattern is that there could be memory issues. the se

RE: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-17 Thread Schulte Marcus
hi ted, thanks for the feedback! > Why do you not use Hivetranse for session/transaction management? > There has already been done alot of work on that. It is a clean > Hivemind contribution. Check it out! > http://hivetranse.sourceforge.net/ > That's a story which went a bit "unlucky". Last summ

Re: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-16 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
I have finally sat down and done some initial examinations of the kickstart code, and I like it a lot :) I hope the project continues to flower and grow as I like the design principles and overall goals he's moving forward with very much. A little competition is always a healthy thing for soft dev

Re: Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-16 Thread Ted Steen
This is something that is really needed, but I have some questions. Why do you not use Hivetranse for session/transaction management? There has already been done alot of work on that. It is a clean Hivemind contribution. Check it out! http://hivetranse.sourceforge.net/ Also, as you are using Java

Kickstart 0.2 released

2006-01-15 Thread Schulte Marcus
I've put together a new release of KickStart, a Tapestry/Hivemind/Hibernate application template implementing the hibernate-session-per-conversation pattern (http://kickstart.sourceforge.net). Biggest Improvement: Conversations now have their own lifecycle. They can be terminated without affecting