eally appeciate everyone's help and advice,
Jim
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From: James Carman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:29 AM
To: 'Tapestry users'
Subject: RE: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
Well, I just posted it to the forum too.
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Well, I just posted it to the forum too.
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From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:27 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: RE: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
HIbernate community practice is to submit issues for filtering in the
he issue.
Thanks.
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From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:16 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
Konstantin's idea of using the domain object itself as an edit buffer
is exactly what I'm s
jects/hibernate/browse/HHH-1716
If anyone else would like them to look at it, please vote for the issue.
Thanks.
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From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:16 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
Ko
tyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:56 AM
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Subject: RE: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
Do not think this is a 'bug'. SaveOrUpdate is a 'convenience' feature and if
different strategy is necessary then it can be implemented /easily/ in
k/src/test/
com/carm
anconsulting/tapernate/util/SessionFactoryFactory.java
It prints out "The id is 1."
-Original Message-
From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:56 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: RE: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
Do not think this
rnate/util/SessionFactoryFactory.java
It prints out "The id is 1."
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From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:56 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: RE: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
Do not think this is a
ugh all of the scenarios as I'm
sure they did. Has anyone filed a Jira issue with the Hibernate folks about
this to get some clarification?
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From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:45 AM
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ssue with the Hibernate folks about
this to get some clarification?
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From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:45 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: RE: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
Object itself could be such a buffer (or ra
AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
FYI: there is no need to 'maintain' ActionForm in Struts unless you
need to, this is the common mistake.
Business object can be placed in the ActionForm as one field and its
properties accessed and set in OGNL like fashion
ally in the database).
So, they're trying to come up with a "buffer" to avoid such a situation.
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From: Konstantin Iignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:38 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
ealing with a persistence mechanism
that can potentially leave objects in an indeterminate state.
Thanks again,
Jim
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From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:09 PM
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Subject: Re: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
Ji
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Subject: Re: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
Jim --
My suggestion would be to keep all the user-entered values around in
an object that's not the manufacturer, but is solely a value object
that is very specific to th
dealing with a persistence mechanism
that can potentially leave objects in an indeterminate state.
Thanks again,
Jim
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From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:09 PM
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Subject: Re: Insert/Update pages and Hibern
an API that could potentially mutate them, since I
need
to keep the original data around (the user input). But I've never
seen
anyone doing this, so I'm asking about this situation here because
either I'm missing something or a lot of other people are.
Jim
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I should add that I'm using Hibernate 3.1.3 and the service method is
ultimately calling Spring's (v 1.2.7) HibernateTemplate.save(...) to
perform the insert.
Jim
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From: James Carman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 8:18 PM
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Jim,
Oooh! That's nasty and I was unaware of the issue (assigning a primary
key
action and maybe try
to figure out how to code around it)?
Thanks,
James
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From: Jim Steinberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 8:16 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: RE: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
Paul,
Thanks much -- I take your points w
an be helpful to you.
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From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
There are several practices you can use to avoid painting yourself
into this corner:
(1) Probably t
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From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:12 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
There are several practices you can use to avoid painting yourself
into this corner:
(1) Probably the best and simplest: Use a str
There are several practices you can use to avoid painting yourself
into this corner:
(1) Probably the best and simplest: Use a straightforward transaction-
per-request model, and don't ever hold on to persistent objects
between requests.* Instead, hold on to the IDs of your persistent
obj
In Tapestry, we use model objects as the data-buffer. If we're
editing an entity, and something goes wrong, we can set an errorMessage
property, "return this;", and expect the user to see the form still
filled-out with what they'd just typed with an explanation of what went
wrong.
If you're u
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