I would agree with you if Tapestry would be used for email only and
nothing else, but if you have an application that is all Tapestry and in
one or two places the application requires sending out an email, I think
using Tapestry for that would make more sense than to add (meaning
deploy, config
I mainly wrote that because you were thinking about annotations for the
transaction demarcation...
James Carman wrote:
I'll have to look at it, but I don't know that I use any 1.5-specific
features. I think I only have one place where I use a "typed" collection
(in the persistence strategy), b
Can't we just get rid of this?
On 5/4/06, Apache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Cool idea...
So I guess I won't entirely get around writing a few lines of code...
Thanks for the ideas
MARK
Sam Gendler wrote:
Or you could store the format string as a localized message, pass it
to the SimpleDateFormat object, and format european dates for
europeans, us dates for americans,
Hi!
I have a somolar problem few weeks ago. Are you using the same version
of Java for compiling and running?
brg,
Istvan
On 5/3/06, Rob Dennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks.
Here is the stack trace
* model.daos.SessionCreatorImpl.(SessionCreatorImpl.java:14)
* sun.reflect.Na
Ah! I hit send before it was ready. Here is the link I meant to send.
http://www.stringtemplate.org/
-Original Message-
From: albartell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:04 PM
To: Tapestry users; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Tapestry to generate mails ?
He
Here is the tooling I just implemented last week to template emails
-Original Message-
From: Stephane Decleire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 4:37 PM
To: tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Tapestry to generate mails ?
Hi,
I would like to know if anybody
True. On the other hand,
did you know that there's an email app using Tapestry.
They used custom implementations for WebRequest, WebResponse, e.t.c.
to abstract the send and receive process. It's a bizarre use of Tapestry, but
it's quite interesting, wouldn't you agree?
>From James Carman <[EMAI
Ben,
Sorry I didn't get back to you. But, with respect to the persistence
strategy, that's about right. I think you've got it. The squeezer does
squeeze the entities based on their persistent identity also.
James
-Original Message-
From: Ben Dotte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed
Tapestry is for creating interactive HTML, not a static HTML-formatted email
(IMHO). I think you're trying to use an elephant gun to hunt squirrel here.
Velocity is perfect for generating email text. You can still use your
architecture, you just put some helper beans in the VelocityContext.
---
I had this related link over at my delicious (
http://del.icio.us/andyhot/tapestry ).
It's entitled 'Sending Tapestry-generated email with Spring' and it's at:
http://www.behindthesite.com/blog/C1931765677/E2094832857/index.html
>From Stephane Decleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> I would l
Or you could store the format string as a localized message, pass it
to the SimpleDateFormat object, and format european dates for
europeans, us dates for americans, etc.
--sam
On 5/3/06, Eric Fesler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
An easy way would be to use a page property to return the formatted
Hi,
I would like to know if anybody use Tapestry to generate its email ?
Indeed, generate mails based on templates is very similar to generate
HTML pages ...
As an exemple, i would like to implement the famous "I've forgot my
password" by sending the user an email based on a template where the
In thinking about this some more and searching the mailing list, I think
I have come to a more logical conclusion about how Tapernate works. But
again, it would be great if someone familiar with the project could
confirm/deny this:
The "entity" persistence strategy is just used to load objects fro
Well, I just started working on something very similar. I want to submit
a form using a LinkSubmit and render the response to that submission in
a new window. After looking at it myself for a little bit, I got the
window to pop up and the response to render in the parent, so not quite
what I had in
Okay, I have a number of modules and I want to generate code coverage
for them with cobertura. Some of the classes can be tested with normal
unit tests so they are not a problem. Some of the classes, however, are
Tapestry components. To test them I have a separate module called
integration-tests th
I am trying to create tests for a Tapestry application that injects various
services into page classes. How can I tell Tapestry to use mock services
inside of my tests? For example, I have a page that displays some data from
the database. This page doesn’t work because the database has no dat
Does anyone know of some useful plugins for generating tapestry/hivemind
related documentation when generating a site in maven 2, specifically
for generating component docs?
--
Dan Adams
Software Engineer
Interactive Factory
617.235.5857
-
I can only agree. Please be aware that most people who answer to this
list, do so in their spare time.
Konstantin Ignatyev wrote:
Such attitude is VERY bad in my opinion because if shows lack of respect for people's time.
It is the responsibility of a developer to check a
Thanks.
Here is the stack trace
* model.daos.SessionCreatorImpl.(SessionCreatorImpl.java:14)
* sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method)
*
sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:39)
*
sun.reflect.Dele
Maybe you're in fact missing a jar then. Send a full stack trace.
-Serge
Rob Dennett wrote:
Thanks for your help, but I don't have a WEB-INF/lib folder. All the hibernate
jars are located in shared/lib and my eclipse project links to them there. Are
copies or multiple versions of a class di
If the entityName and the id where somehow accessible outside
EntityIdentity I could just implement an EntityIdentitySqueezer that
would behave as the EntityIdentityTransformer you mentioned, but you
are right. The id is just a serializable and could also be a composite
id, so a nice general solut
Thanks for your help, but I don't have a WEB-INF/lib folder. All the hibernate
jars are located in shared/lib and my eclipse project links to them there. Are
copies or multiple versions of a class disallowed by the Tomcat classloader?
If not, what else could be causing the problem?
Thanks fo
I was just taking a look at Tapernate for the first time and I was
hoping James or someone familiar with it could verify my understanding
of how it works and clear up a few things:
- Persistent properties are squeezed/unsqueezed based on their Hibernate
session identity.
- The @Persist("entity
Sure it would. Personally I do not have issues paying
fair price for valuable information or tool. I ma getting paid for my work and
I do not ming passing that money to the people and companies which make my job
more convenient and meaningful.
Provided that they charge
Firstly, I'm not against merging. But obviously there are a couple of
differences
in goals and style that need to be addressed properly beforehand, since it
implies a lot of (tedious) work. I still hope that we can, at least, factor
out common parts (btw. honey-excel is already such a completely in
Come on, if you come to a mailing list its because you're lost and you need
the experience of others. Giving a couple of pointers, some keywords to use
with Google, costs nothing, both in terms of money and effort.
On 5/3/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Of course, pointing someone t
Classloading issues. You probably have the tapestry related jars (how
about the same annotations jar?) in your WEB-INF/lib.
I'd remove everything from shared/lib and keep the dependencies
application specific.
Serge
Rob Dennett wrote:
I am getting a weird NoClassDefFoundError when I try t
Of course, pointing someone to *free* external resources would be a bit
nicer.
-Original Message-
From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:50 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: HTML tables
Such attitude is VERY bad in my
Such attitude is VERY bad in my opinion because if shows
lack of respect for people's time.
It is the responsibility of a developer to check and study all the available
resources and only then seek for help in the list for something that looks
non-trivial.
In my opini
True, but this example is also a good lead to start from.
And giving advice like buy Kent's book renders the purporse of the mailing
list useless, me thinks.
On 5/3/06, Andreas Bulling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 03. Mai 2006 - 11:29:36, Mike Snare wrote:
| Seriously, you need to buy kent's
On 03. Mai 2006 - 11:29:36, Mike Snare wrote:
| Seriously, you need to buy kent's book. Or maybe look at the
| documentation for the TableView component and/or the For component.
No offence, but all those "buy Kent's book and read it" advices don't
help if one needs a _quick_ answer to his questi
I am getting a weird NoClassDefFoundError when I try to start my application.
The error is thrown when I call new AnnotationConfiguration(). The code
compiles and hibernate-annotations.jar is in [tomcat-home]/shared/lib. Any
ideas? Below is the relevant code (I think).
Thanks for your he
Seriously, you need to buy kent's book. Or maybe look at the
documentation for the TableView component and/or the For component.
-Mike
On 5/3/06, Rui Pacheco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But how do you iterate through a recordset to create those tables and keep
Tapestry's model of separation of
Well, I just posted it to the forum too.
-Original Message-
From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:27 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: RE: Insert/Update pages and Hibernate
HIbernate community practice is to submit issues for filtering in the f
HIbernate community practice is to submit issues for filtering in the forum
first and only after that promote them to JIRA bug tracking if necessary.
James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I would still consider it a bug.
It's one thing to expect Hibernate
to rollback values that I set
Well, I would still consider it a bug. It's one thing to expect Hibernate
to rollback values that I set on my objects during the course of a
transaction. It doesn't do that. But, it's an entirely different thing to
expect Hibernate to rollback values that *it* sets on my objects (or not set
them
I see.
But still think it is rather feature than 'bug'. Send it to Hibernate forum
please I couls be wrong.
James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I would consider it a bug. This
doesn't just happen on
saveOrUpdate(). And, you don't have to flush the session to get it to
happen either.
But how do you iterate through a recordset to create those tables and keep
Tapestry's model of separation of concerns?
On 5/3/06, Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We create tables as just plain html and then embed DirectLinks with
parameters. Doesn't have to be that difficult.
-Origi
Konstantin's idea of using the domain object itself as an edit buffer
is exactly what I'm saying often leads to trouble. It *can* work --
it just ends up being unnecessarily complicated in most cases.
However, I agree with him that this is *really* not a bug in
Hibernate. The Hibernate team
We create tables as just plain html and then embed DirectLinks with parameters.
Doesn't have to be that difficult.
-Original Message-
From: Steve Lianoglou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 5/3/2006 7:48 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: HTML tables
> Well the easiest way would be t
Well, I would consider it a bug. This doesn't just happen on
saveOrUpdate(). And, you don't have to flush the session to get it to
happen either. Check out the main method on this class:
http://www.carmanconsulting.com/svn/public/tapernate/trunk/src/test/com/carm
anconsulting/tapernate/util/Ses
Do not think this is a 'bug'. SaveOrUpdate is a 'convenience' feature and if
different strategy is necessary then it can be implemented /easily/ in the
application DAO layer.
Although I personally never needed that, saveOrUpdate magic combined with
'assigned' identifiers work quite well for me.
That doesn't avoid the problem where the id can be set, but the row isn't
actually written to the database. The next time a request comes in, that
object will have its id property set and Hibernate will think it's a
persistent object (when you go to merge), when it really is not. This is
quite a
Object itself could be such a buffer (or rather working copy of an object) and
later it can be merged with Hibernate session /session.merge() / when necessary
For the comparison fairness I simply pointed to the fact that Struts does not
require all the object fieds to be duplicated in ActionFor
Transactions - HibernateTemplate does not propagate transactions, it is roughly
equal to the use of autocommit mode in JDBC.
Jim Steinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What technical arguments from that
blog-thread do you find so
compelling?
-Original Message-
From: Konstantin Iignat
Well, the only thing Tapernate is missing right now (AFAIK) is the
transaction-per-conversation support. I know Marcus has done that already
in Honeycomb, so I will be "combing" (couldn't resist) through it to see
what I can steal...cough...cough...borrow. ;-) What is needed is a good way
to dema
I agree that tapernate feels more hibernish then honeycomb.
I guess the suggestion here would be to break honeycomb into several
plugable jars each one providing an integration with a different technology.
One of these could then could be a merge of tapernate and honeycomb
hibernate integration.
I am going to be moving it to http://howardlewisship.com/tapestry-javaforge/
soon. So, it will have a website and some documentation. I just need to
get around to it. The source code will also be hosted at JavaForge inside
the "tapestry" project there.
-Original Message-
From: Jesse Ku
That's an excellent question :) You can get the actual library via the
public svn server at http://carmanconsulting.com/, but if this is supposed
to be "the" tapestry hibernate library it certainly is going to need a
website + docs.
On 5/3/06, Chris Chiappone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would
I would be interested in looking into tapernate also. Is there any
documentation or website about it? Is it just a drop in jar? And where can
I download from?
Thanks
On 5/3/06, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As much as I'd like to be loyal to honeycomb, when it came down to
evalua
As much as I'd like to be loyal to honeycomb, when it came down to
evaluating both and choosing one to reccomend to a client I ended up going
with tapernate.
I feel it most closely fits in with the style of development that tapestry
and hivemind both try to achieve. (funny that, considering that
I don't know about that, necessarily. We have discussed it in the past.
However, the scope of Tapernate is less than what Honeycomb is trying to
achieve. Tapernate is supposed to be the "way to do hibernate within
tapestry." But, Honeycomb has other pieces (auditing, excel exporting,
etc.) to it
I see that. So what you're trying to say is that tapernate and honeycomb
approachs are too diferent implementation wise for them to be merged into a
single project ?
On 5/3/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I chose to use the Spring stuff to manage the current sessions and allow
for
d
Well the easiest way would be to look it up in the documentation.
Kent's book, for example.
Or you could suggest a whack at some investigation/googling on the
contrib:Table component.
I think I used the tutorials here [1] when I had to figure it out --
this was back in the Tap3 days ... I
I chose to use the Spring stuff to manage the current sessions and allow for
declarative transaction demarcation since I know that stuff works quite
well. I don't use Spring IoC at all. I just added the Spring stuff into my
HiveMind "object soup."
-Original Message-
From: Hugo Palma [m
That's one of the differences in implementation that i found. But i don't
see that as a something that will drive my choice, as long as i don't have
to use Spring IOC(hivemind will do just fine) for me it's just another jar
in the classpath.
On 5/3/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On
Well the easiest way would be to look it up in the documentation. Kent's
book, for example.
Rui Pacheco wrote:
Hi all
I'm new to Tapestry and I've been testing it for a project at work. I was
wondering whats the easiest way to create html tables with navigational
links.
--
Cumprimentos,
Rui
Hi all
I'm new to Tapestry and I've been testing it for a project at work. I was
wondering whats the easiest way to create html tables with navigational
links.
--
Cumprimentos,
Rui Pacheco
One big difference is the usage of the Spring classes within Tapernate.
This is just a difference of opinion/direction.
-Original Message-
From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:04 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Honeycomb vs Tapernate or Honeycomb wit
Hi all,
i've just started thinking about how Tapestry is going to be used in a new
project at work. One of the decisions is how the integration with hibernate
is going to be implemented, i'm guessing 95% of Tapestry projects goes
through this. With this in mind i took a look at Honeycomb and at T
An easy way would be to use a page property to return the formatted date
string.
Ex:
Current server date and time
and on the page class/
public String getCurrentDateTime() {
SimpleDateFormat df = new SimpleDateFormat(" d ");
return df.format(new java.util.Date());
}
--ERic
On
Henri,
This same issue has been discussed before (search the archives for my
name and authentication), but I'll summarize what I've done and how it
works -- and how it doesn't work.
I've created an authentication interceptor that I attach to all the
major engines. It simply checks for an authen
This is exactly what they're trying to avoid, putting "business objects"
into their page logic. The problem with that, as pointed out earlier, is
that it can leave your business objects in an invalid state (they have an
identifier assigned to them, but the record isn't actually in the database).
S
I'll have to look at it, but I don't know that I use any 1.5-specific
features. I think I only have one place where I use a "typed" collection
(in the persistence strategy), but that's not a must. I'll see what I can
do.
-Original Message-
From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: We
Ted,
I agree with you and the good thing is that the implementation can change
without really affecting any of your code. I would like to keep folks from
being able to just change a character in the URL and be able to look at
something that maybe they're not supposed to. Also, you can't always j
Hi,
is there an easy way to pick the desired date format when using the
message-bindings?
In my example I have this in my html file:
value="ognl:messages.format('currentServerDateAndTime', new
java.util.Date())">Current server date and time: June 26 2005
The german resource entry looks like
What technical arguments from that blog-thread do you find so
compelling?
-Original Message-
From: Konstantin Iignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:04 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: [tapernate] Session-Per-Conversation...
Spring Hibernate Template is th
Of course, but the url:s would be a lot prettier and, as I like to be
picky, there would be a small performance gain too as the squeezer
doesn't need to compress and convert to Base64... and also there would
be somewhat less data to transfer between client and server :>
Anyway, it wouldn't be hard
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