On 14 November 2013 11:54, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
>
> Hmm, difficult to get the difference right. How would you call a place
> with video games and pinball machines? What if there are also claw
> cranes?
>
I'd call it an amusement arcade, but that's probably just a local term.
Also games arcade
On 24 May 2011 20:23, Andrew Chadwick (lists)
wrote:
> There's a need to address the meanings of overlapping
> landuses or possibly even areas generally that I don't really wish to
> address in something as simple as a rewording of the docs for gardens.
There's not nearly as many overlapping case
On 22 June 2011 15:13, Steve Bennett wrote:
>
> The "u-turn only" situations I can think of:
> - a divided highway, where the u-turn lane is represented as a oneway,
> no relation required)
> - a dead end road, where the u-turn is self-explanatory
> - maybe some weirdo situation where one directio
On 22 June 2011 16:14, Colin Smale wrote:
> That's for the renderer to sort out... We just need to make sure that the
> data makes/enables the distinctions that we do as humans. The renderer can
> always map multiple tags onto the same icon if it wants to. I think I would
> call this Garden Tools.
How about lane dividers? This is an example below, though where I'm
thinking of them they actually divide a couple of lanes for about a km
or so - no lane changing allowed at that point.
http://www.ingalcivil.com.au/reboundable_lane_divider.html
Stephen
On 1 July 2011 03:37, M∡rtin Koppenhoefe
your vehicle, or completely stop you going
through. These you can drive over, but you'll notice that you have.
It's a barrier that is more informational (You shouldn't do this) than
real (you can't do this).
Stephen
On 1 July 2011 15:29, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On 06/30/2011
On 4 July 2011 21:06, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> +1
>
> do you have a tagging suggesting? maybe barrier=road_stud ? What would
> you call continuous ones like the one I posted from street view?
The generic term for all of them is lane divider. But that's also used
for cat's eyes, pavement ma
Martin,
I agree that landuse is not the correct way to do this. What is the
recommended way?
I've seen landuse used to name sub-divisions, housing estates, a
retirement village, a religious community (not church owned, but where
all the houses were originally sold to members of the same religion
Brad,
Where I live, suburbs are well known, have fixed borders (though they
can be and are sometimes adjusted), and are part of your address
according to the post office and local government. They are part of a
larger residential area, which may be a city or town. Villages don't
have multiple sub
In Australia (and New Zealand) a suburb is a named, legally defined
area that is part of your address. It is usually (always?) smaller
than a local government area (My local government, Moreton Bay Shire,
has 25-30 suburbs, could be more). The borders are routinely shown on
street maps, or the name
On 1 September 2011 11:41, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> In the US, the problem is that address place names depend on which post
> office serves the area, and there is no freely available accurate data
> showing this. Many suburban areas outside Orlando city limits have Orlando
> in the address, and t
I have no problem with some people just mapping "it has traffic
lights" and others adding more detail, if they feel a need for it.
Most people are never going to need (or have the time/knowledge to
enter) more than "there are lights here", but that doesn't mean we
shouldn't have the option for more
On 20 September 2011 00:39, Gerhard Hermanns wrote:
>
> Traffic simulation (e.g. by cellular automata) is a use case for this. At
> crossroads it can make a huge difference for traffic engineering to know if
> a (turn) lane can contain 3 or 30 vehicles.
> To determine the "capacity" of a turn lane
I've heard many terms for them over the years. Some are proprietary
names, some can be confused with other types (traffic spike). The most
generic term I've seen is one way traffic spike, maybe we can make a
tag from that.
Stephen
On 21 October 2011 03:34, David Earl wrote:
>
> While we're at it
Have you actually driven through the roads, or just verified signs at
the entrances? From only looking at the map, I would expect that cast,
resort guests, business invitees etc can enter at C, but only to go to
the car parks right by the entrance, and further down that road the
restrictions would
f there is a raised door sill, sliding track, etc.
Stephen Hope
On 17 November 2011 22:16, Andreas Balzer wrote:
> Hello,
> I've added a proposal on how to tag doors. It would be nice to get your
> opinions on this.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance
On 23 November 2011 16:00, Paul Johnson wrote:
Don't know, but it is certainly not tidal_road, as that proposal says
"a road that gets tidally flooded". You are not describing a road.
What would you classify it as if the same way happened to be inland,
with no tides involved? Figure that out, t
I can see both sides of the argument. We don't want too much
proliferation of special road types - we already have ice roads, now
tidal is suggested, there could easily be dry weather only (or
not-monsoon only), 4wd only, summer only, etc. How far do we want to
take this?
On the other hand, we do
I *think* a fitness station is a stop on a fitness trail. Some parks and
children's camps have a marked trail that you travel along, and at each
stop there is some sort of activity to do - a rope climb, step climb,
balance beam, tire running, pull up bar, that sort of thing.
http://en.wikipedia.o
On 21 March 2012 20:22, Pieren wrote:
> And your example about "from where the Cinema was before" is a bit a
> problem if we don't see any evidence on the ground (like old signs but
> afain we don't have tags yet for that).
This is exactly the kind of problem we have with neighbourhoods as
disc
I've been clearing up some routing bugs reported in my area on Mapdust.
Some of them are valid errors, and I've fixed them. Some I'm not so sure
about.
In one case there is a road where a two way section comes to a divider and
becomes two one way sections for a while. The suggested route came alon
On 11 April 2012 22:12, Ross Scanlon wrote:
Likewise as below the router should not make u turns at traffic lights.
>
I don't have a problem with this, except we then are going to need some way
to tag "U-turn allowed" to mark the cases where you are allowed to turn.
These are generally traffic
The problem with this, is many mappers are not even aware of what implicit
assumptions they are making, and hence won't map them. Saying that they
should map them won't help.
Do we need a database* of explicit default settings for different areas,
to be used by renderers, routers and other tools
Here's an example of the same type of sign in Australia
http://goo.gl/maps/Pao1
Stephen
On 2 June 2012 05:20, Philip Barnes wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 19:02 +0200, Martin Vonwald (Imagic) wrote:
> > Am 01.06.2012 um 15:01 schrieb Colin Smale :
> >
> > > On 01/06/2012 14:19, Jason Cunning
I was away most of last month, and missed most of the discussion of mini
and normal roundabouts. However, looking at the wiki now, from what I can
tell the differences now are
-Roundabouts can be mapped as a way or node (though way is preferred), mini
roundabouts only as a node
-Roundabouts canno
On 15 August 2012 21:15, David ``Smith'' wrote:
> So why is a new tag or hierarchy needed? Are we just trying to standardize
> or formalize a presently-haphazard array of tags or values?
>
The problem at the moment is that we have two types of tags (landcover and
landuse) scattered throughout a
Eric,
The English version did say that at one point, as well, before it was
changed back to the current definition. Maybe the French one was copied
from it during that period.
Stephen
On 13 October 2012 04:49, Eric SIBERT wrote:
>
>> Indeed, as pointed out by Martin, I have to use lanes=1. I
I've seen hangar used for a building that stores lots of boats, usually on
racks of some sort. Though usually as "boat hangar", not just hangar. It's
not a common term, though.
Stephen
On 24 January 2013 07:42, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> Pieren wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Ma
On 27 June 2013 18:15, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> -
> Baked on site is an important distinction.
>
> For amusement: In the USA much packaged bread is sold with a label or
> sticker reading "Baked fresh daily" or just "Baked fresh". As if... there
> were some other way
On 23 August 2013 03:29, Ferenc Veres wrote:
>
> English is not my native language, so I don't know if plural or singular
> is correct for this, or which wording would work best grammatically
> while also fit in OSM tagging scheme, that recommends plural.
>
> medical_supply
> medical_supplies
> p
I think the operator tag needs some careful documentation if you're
going to use it this way.
Take this local (to me) school as an example
www.stjosephsbrackenridge.qld.edu.au I'll be mapping it's area soon.
This is a Catholic Primary School. If I used operator tag, I'd put
Catholic Church or si
2009/10/16 Lennard :
>
> BTW2: It's halal. What you lack in replying restraint, you make up for
> with extra letters?
>
Maybe where you come from, they write it that way. Not near me they
don't. And seeing as it is an English transliteration of a foreign
language term, don't expect consistency in
Here in Brisbane, we have a 'private way' going from the motorway out
to the airport. It is several km long, divided multilane road that
looks like a motorway, but is all on airport owned land. It is open to
the public, and you can get booked by the police for traffic offences.
However, because it
2009/12/9 Randy :
> On further thought, while I'm OK with either approach, I think
> "amenity=parking, parking=customer" is a better way to go than bending
> access=destination to fit the issue. It seems a little closer to what
> seems to be a best practice in other areas.
>
> And, it does establis
2009/12/22 Paul Johnson :
>
> I'm gonna have to disagree... if it allows both pedestrians and
> bicycles, that would be a cycleway in most cases.
>
Around me, that is not the case. The law where I live is that anybody
is allowed to cycle on any footpath, unless it is otherwise signed, or
there is
Taking this question in two parts
2010/1/19 Alan Mintz :
> Are we being
> US-centric here (is the term really globally wrong)?
It's not just the US, but it may be just English speaking countries.
I've lived in a number of english speaking and commonwealth countries,
and in all of them a power sta
On 8 February 2010 09:10, Roy Wallace wrote:
> I tend to think 1) or 3) is the correct solution. I hesitate to use 3) due
> to [1], which says: "For areas adjacent to ways, the consensus is to
> generally leave a small gap between the area and the way instead of sharing
> the boundary". What about
It's great, but unfortunately the data is out of date (or from
somewhere else). Try looking for source=nearmap , as an example. It
doesn't have any, and I know of hundreds just in my area. I think
it's undergoing redevelopment at the moment.
Stephen
On 25 February 2010 07:45, Steve Bennett wr
It sounds to me like we're getting back to the old argument about the
difference between land-use and land-cover. Unfortunately, tags for
both have been lumped together into landuse=*, (as well as some
natural, man-made etc) which is why the debate reoccurs so often.
Sand is a cover, not a use. S
Hmm, to me there are three levels.
Crazy Clarks is bargain/discount
Target, KMart are downmarket
DJ's etc are upmarket
How should we tag a factory outlet type store that sell's upmarket
stuff at lower prices? I can easily find stores that sell every
product at a very reduced price, but still don
2010/5/19 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" :
> landuse=recreation_ground OR landuse=residential - do you know any
> garden that is outside those two areas?
>
Formal gardens/landscaping around commercial and public buildings?
The gardens at a parliament house, library etc may be considered
recreational b
On 2 June 2010 11:48, Roy Wallace wrote:
>
> amenity=assisted_living, because (if?) in all cases you are describing
> a place where people *live* with *assistance*.
I like assisted_living as well. Be aware, though, that it is starting
to be used as a marketing term for those places which are not
It's a borderline case. There is always going to be some that are a
bit of both.
This one in particular isn't the main Botanical gardens for Brisbane
any more, that's out near Mt Coot-tha. That one is more what I think
of as Botanical Gardens, this one is more what I think of as a park.
I'd be h
I'm a little bit worried about using admin_level, as it has
connotations of control, not just level. It could be misinterpreted
as who controls an airfield, rather than how important it is.
What you're trying to do here is give a renderer explicit hints on how
important something is, and what zoo
On 28 June 2010 10:26, Jason Cunningham wrote:
> Yes, the wiki needs to be changed to tell people not to use the insulting
> word 'soccer', especially as we try to use British English to stop tags
> getting confusing.
> Just using sport=football would be confusing, so I prefer
> sport=association_
On 28 June 2010 20:02, Jason Cunningham wrote:
> The English rich decided they didnt like using the long 'association
> football', and were understandably unhappy about the working class stealing
> the term 'football' for the working class game. So the rich English came up
> with the term soccer.
On 1 July 2010 22:08, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> In fact, the technique of having the user select from a list of words, but
> actually storing the value as an arbitrary ID (generally numeric), is the
> recommended technique in database design. It is called "normalizing the
> database". Having
On 5 July 2010 12:21, Alan Mintz wrote:
> I see the lanes tag
> being useful primarily in determining likely speed possible in making
> routing decisions, other factors being equal. It could also be useful in
> rendering. Neither would seem to sway me to add the extra lane for such a
> short dista
On 30 July 2010 17:42, Steve Bennett wrote:
>
> Given that there are wineries that don't sell direct to the public,
> and there are wine shops not attached to wineries, and that a cellar
> door is really no more than a wine shop within a winery, I would
> suggest:
>
Some cellar doors these days a
On 31 July 2010 09:29, Dave F. wrote:
> I just don't see an ambulance/fire station as an emergency. I mean, if you
> fall down and injure yourself you don't try & get to the station you 'phone
> up & get an ambulance to come to you.
Where I live it is common to talk about the emergency services.
Ignoring for the moment the whole "how do we change it" thing brought
up by the emergency tags, there seems to be a whole underlying issue
that's worth looking at.
There seems to be a disconnect between two groups of people - those
who would like a more defined grouping of tags, and those who thin
On 3 August 2010 11:28, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM, John Smith wrote:
>>
>> I can't remember what happened, and there is nothing really useful on
>> the discussion page at all.
>
> Looks like the usual tussle between mapping at some deep semantic
> level ("can you use t
On 16 August 2010 15:01, Steve Bennett wrote:
>>He wasn’t saying that bicycle=designated is always a sharrow, but that a
>>sharrow is effectively the same thing as a sign saying “bike route”.
>>They’re both ways of marking something as a designated route for bicycles.
>
> I don't agree with this.
On 29 August 2010 16:28, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Z%C3%BCrich_-_B%C3%BCrkliplatz_IMG_0525_ShiftN.jpg
> (or something less fancy) is what I think of a pavilion as.
> http://apps.ocfl.net/dept/cesrvcs/parks/parkdetails.asp?parkid=66
> agrees that the park has "rent
On 31 August 2010 08:36, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> Does "direction of the original drawing" mean that the nodes should be
> marked from upstream to downstream?
Yes. Except I usually work the other way, then reverse the way. Or
draw a little bit the right way, then add from the other end, which
On 21 September 2010 10:08, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> maybe you can spot a more technic term? I'm sure they have a proper name ;-)
Wikipedia seems to think they're just a subset of a Jersey Barrier -
mind you, even jersey barrier is a new term for me. I have no idea
what the UK equivalent is.
I have a couple of questions as to if I should be marking certain ways
as highway=residential or something else, and am looking for feedback.
The definition given for residential roads is "Roads accessing or
around residential areas but which are not a classified or
unclassified highway."
First,
What we generally have around here is a shop that both sells and rents
formal wear - sometimes one sex, often both. They do weddings, school
formals, black tie dinners etc. I'd call this a formal wear shop.
One that sells nothing but wedding dresses is a subset of this (and
very rare around here,
On 29 September 2010 13:58, Noel David Torres Taño wrote:
> AND I would search
> another name for "ceremonial", as a New Year's eve party has nothing to do
> with any kind of ceremony but it's probably the time where average women use
> their most high-end dresses except for their own weddings.
A
On 5 October 2010 07:55, Colin Smale wrote:
> Let's start by splitting out static characteristics from dynamic influences
> such traffic and weather. Once the static stuff (lanes, inclines, curviness
> and whatever) is in there, something like TMC information can be used to add
> in the realtime d
On 8 October 2010 03:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> What is the current feeling for a new key "landcover"? Could resolve
> many issues, as often landuse is a mixture of actual "use" and
> "coverage".
As long as it is made clear that not all landuse= tags are actually
landuse (or would we move
On 15 October 2010 02:29, wrote:
> However, in countries that have more than one official language, or in areas
> that expect to have a lot of foreign visitors, you are likely to see more
> than one language on at least some of the signs. In this case, what would
> you recommend, particularly
On 13 November 2010 21:40, Ulf Lamping wrote:
> How is landcover orthogonal to landuse / natural?
Landcover should absolutely be orthogonal to landuse. Landcover is
what is on a given spot (grass, trees, pavement, carpark, building,
water, etc) while landuse if what the area is used for (Park, s
Yeah, he's obviously copied a page about bike lanes - there's still a
couple of bike references in places. To me, a busway is a separate
road just for buses (or maybe emergency vehicles as well), anything
that is in a normal street is just a bus lane.
Around here we have bus-ways (dedicated bus
On 16 November 2010 11:04, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> How do you define "separate"? Most of the bus lanes here are
> separated, but cars can cross the obstacles if they had to
Separate as in a totally different road, with it's own verges,
bridges, tunnels etc. The buses use these to bypass the
A winter road is on ground (swamp, marsh, mud, dirt) while an ice road
is on a water feature (lake, bay). Both need freezing weather for
good roads, but you can walk along a winter road in summer (if
allowed), while you'd need a boat for an ice road.
Stephen
On 12 December 2010 08:55, Steve Benn
On 4 January 2011 02:26, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2010/12/17 Pieren :
>
>
>> Yes and it would fine if we could continue in that way. Since landuses
>> shouldn't overlap
>
>
> where do you get this from? IMHO this is not defined in the wiki and
> looking at current "landuse values" like militar
Have you seen the presentation of "Tag Central" that came out of the
last State of the Map conference? I think something like this was
covered in that, though I could be thinking of the wrong thing.
Stephen
On 6 January 2011 13:00, John Smith wrote:
> On 6 January 2011 08:47, Steve Bennett wrot
I'm starting to be convinced that there is a cultural disconnect with
the word craft. To me (and I suspect most English speakers) there has
to almost be an arts aspect for something to be a craft. Whereas I'm
starting to get the impression the German use is closer to what I
think of as trade or pr
On 9 January 2011 07:43, Robert Elsenaar wrote:
> Nathan,
> I do not understand you at all.
> We agree about cycleway=lane: No seperation but defenitely a special place
> for bicycles.
> You stated in your last replay, and correct me if a I'm wrong.
> highway cycleway should be mapped if there is
I don't agree. This is a good general rule, but the general
convention on most maps is that the coast goes on the SEA side of
things like coastal swamps and mangroves. As a rule of thumb, if it
has plants growing though the water, it's land, not sea, even if it
happens to be wet.
Doing this your
On 19 January 2011 16:50, wrote:
> Google, however, has put the coastline around the outside of the marshes and
> the result looks nothing like a good representation of what's actually
> there:
> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=abu+dhabi&safe=on&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Abu+Dhabi+-+United+Arab+Emirates&
On 28 January 2011 07:43, wrote:
> Scree, however, usually refers to a sloping pile of loose rock at the base of
> a cliff, rather than being a general term for loose rocks.
It's a little bit more general than that - a sloping hillside covered
with loose rock is also scree. But loose rock on f
We have some in Australia. Of course, the usual flow state in these
areas is none (or very little).
It's very flat ground, often hundreds (or thousands) of km from the
sea. River channels wander through, carrying water that comes from
wherever the floods are. If it rained to the south, the water f
On 9 April 2011 05:24, Richard Weait wrote:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=sports_centre
> might include racquet sport courts, a gymnasium, exercise equipment, a
> running track and an ice hockey rink.
Around here, that might also include an "indoor sports centre" (indoor
cricke
On 9 April 2011 06:27, Mike N wrote:
> I agree that a fitness club/center doesn't fit well as a sports centre -
> which I would visualize as having multiple types of facilities for
> competitive and/or community social purposes.
A sports centre doesn't have to have mixed sports (though most do)
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