Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - second_hand shops

2011-11-06 Thread Laurence Penney
Sorry to be late chiming in. About a year ago Sean Horgan, Craig Wallace and I thrashed out some ideas for charity shops. It just seemed wrong not to tag an Oxfam bookshop as shop=books! The discussion was fruitful although, reprehensibly, we didn't put anything in the wiki. I think Craig's pr

Re: [Tagging] Openstreetview or similar and JOSM integration

2012-05-11 Thread Laurence Penney
Thought I’d cc John McKerrell on this in case he wants to chime in. He is the guy behind OpenStreetView. - Laurence On 10 May 2012, at 13:59, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: > "Related project" as in? > I have geotagged survey-type photos that I'd love to upload to such service. > As mentioned bef

[Tagging] Date formatting proposal

2010-11-10 Thread Laurence Penney
I'm posting here a link to a proposal for date formatting that I just added to the start_date wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:start_date The motivator was the discovery of many tag values of unfeasible heterogeneity in start_date. Taginfo reports 18313 usages (2814 distinct),

Re: [Tagging] Date formatting proposal

2010-11-10 Thread Laurence Penney
wrote: > On Thu, November 11, 2010 04:56, Laurence Penney wrote: >> I'm posting here a link to a proposal for date formatting that I just >> added to the start_date wiki page: > >> Comments welcome! Please follow up either here or on the Discussion page >> on

[Tagging] Width of shop frontage

2010-11-22 Thread Laurence Penney
In some detailed shop tagging I'm doing it feel's like I'm missing a method of declaring that a given shop is more than the width of one "shop unit". I'm considering adding units=2, units=3 etc for such cases. I think it would be particularly useful to demonstrate that the whole of a row of sho

Re: [Tagging] Charity tagging

2010-11-22 Thread Laurence Penney
Hi Hurricane, I tagged some shop=charity over the last couple of months, but did so reluctantly. I think I might go back and use shop=second_hand. We could use something like business=charity or business_model=charity or charity=* to declare that it is non-commercial. http://taginfo.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Width of shop frontage

2010-11-23 Thread Laurence Penney
On 23 Nov 2010, at 05:47, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Laurence Penney wrote: >> I think it would be particularly useful to demonstrate that the whole of a >> row of shops has been surveyed. After taking account of the units tag, any >> gaps in a

Re: [Tagging] Width of shop frontage

2010-11-23 Thread Laurence Penney
ning of these. > > regards > Peter > > Am 23.11.2010 16:23, schrieb Laurence Penney: >> On 23 Nov 2010, at 05:47, Steve Bennett wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Laurence Penney wrote: >>>> I think it would be particularly useful to de

Re: [Tagging] Width of shop frontage

2010-11-23 Thread Laurence Penney
Could work really well: fill in the address for the first shop, it gets prefilled (maybe housenumber preinc/decremented) for the next shop. Or mappers can leave addressing to a separate survey. - L On 23 Nov 2010, at 20:08, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: > How will it handle multiple businesses sh

Re: [Tagging] Width of shop frontage

2010-11-24 Thread Laurence Penney
Indeed it can vary from one street segment to another. This matters not a jot to the idea of automated node positioning. If there are substantial differences within a street segment, then another method of indicating width may be better - perhaps a guess in metres. Anyway I think I'll make an a

Re: [Tagging] Charity tagging

2010-12-04 Thread Laurence Penney
I don't dislike this direction, Sean, but a "social facility" doesn't to me necessarily imply charity. It implies non-commercial, but it could be something run by the council. There are useful distinctions to be made between charity and the state! I'd prefer charity=shop and shop={books|second_

Re: [Tagging] Charity tagging

2010-12-06 Thread Laurence Penney
The whole point of the social_facility, as described on the wiki, is clearly around helping people at that place. Charity shops such as Oxfam and British Heart Foundation - even if they have broad aims of "social justice" - just don't fit into this at all. And RSPCA shops? They explicitly have n

Re: [Tagging] Charity tagging

2010-12-07 Thread Laurence Penney
On 6 Dec 2010, at 20:51, Craig Wallace wrote: > Or another idea would be to tag them with something like "operator:type" or > similar. eg: > > shop=books > operator=Oxfam > operator:type=charity I like this. > This could be expanded for a wide variety of other operator types - there are > many

[Tagging] Editing road layouts that have bus routes

2010-12-15 Thread Laurence Penney
The other day I tidied up a road junction near where I live in Bristol, moving nodes and deleting a way with the aid of Bing imagery. I found it more problematic than I expected because of a bus route that went along the road - the deleted way seems to have confused things. Here are the two way

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Draft - Depot

2010-12-16 Thread Laurence Penney
Seems a very broadly defined tag. I passed a "depot d'ordures" the other day in France. Does anybody have a better idea for such crap? - L On 16 Dec 2010, at 13:33, Simone Saviolo wrote: > Hi everyone, > > here [1] is the proposal for a landuse=depot tag. > > Due to the fact that this is the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Draft - Depot

2010-12-17 Thread Laurence Penney
> From :mailto:stevag...@gmail.com > Date :Thu Dec 16 22:26:08 America/Chicago 2010 > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Laurence Penney wrote: >> Seems a very broadly defined tag. I passed a "depot d'ordures" the other day >> in France. Does anybody

Re: [Tagging] What to map a site of historical significants...

2011-04-27 Thread Laurence Penney
Historical event geotagging could rapidly get out of hand. This feels to me very much orthogonal to OSM - almost every news story, photo, work of art, etc arguably deserves a geotag, but hardly any of them deserve to be in OSM. A separate database is where things like this should reside, where a