Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 22:43, Marc_marc wrote: > > but what's the playing area ? > Yep, good question, with no across-the-board answer! As you say, you can play tennis from "outside" the court, but in most ball games, if the ball (& sometimes player) crosses the marked line, that's out! & then

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 02:57, Illia Marchenko wrote: > As possible solution, *shop=weapon* > Sorry, but speaking as a recreational shooter, & on behalf of all others, we find the use of the term "weapons" for our chosen sporting tools more than somewhat offensive - recreational shooters don't us

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 09:26, Greg Troxel wrote: > > In the US, even in Massachusetts, usage is "gun store" (store US vs shop > UK, as usual) if being casual, and "firearms" if being formal. I have > never heard any (civilian) store be desribed as a "weapons store". > Yep, & they don't buy from

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 11:03, stevea wrote: > Postscript: I find Minh's examples (a drive-through liquor store with > live fishing bait, a supermarket with mattresses and tool sheds, a > laundromat with treadmills, a car wash and tanning beds...) to be each and > every one of true, well-research

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 14:31, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I have created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dknives > Thanks > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dammunition has single use > Is there a different tagging for that or

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 14:38, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Jun 20, 2023, 01:36 by g...@lexort.com: > > In English, the adjective for the shop tends to be singular, when that > adjective is a noun. The plural just sounds funny. For example we have > "car deale

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 22:11, Greg Troxel wrote: > > an air rifle is not a firearm, in English, because there is no > combustion > Unfortunately, in Australia at least, air rifles are actually officially classed as firearms! :-( Thanks Graeme ___

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 at 03:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > but I have never seen a convenience store selling auto supplies, > Do you have stores attached to service stations, selling bread, milk, snacks, drinks etc? If so, they would probably also have a couple of shelves of auto stuff. Than

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 07:42, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Vào lúc 01:47 2023-06-27, Martin Koppenhoefer đã viết: > > what’s the category for multi role combat aircraft or heavy battletanks? > > Why do you ask? 🤔 > So they can be listed as shop=weapons, perhaps? :-) Thanks Graeme _

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger

On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 05:39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > https://i.etsystatic.com/26861520/r/il/09aa34/3144992841/il_1140xN.3144992841_ps9i.jpg > Ah, but is that frame, material or surface? :-) https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/benches-material/100491 Thanks Graeme

[Tagging] Refreshed proposal - Emergency=disaster_response

Advising on behalf of the originator that https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Emergency%3Ddisaster_response has been refreshed with new content. So far, the person who redid it is only on the talk page, but further conversation is also on the Forum at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

Just commented on the Forum, but I'll repeat it here. There are too many things to take into account that may affect your coverage - different networks, different phones on the same network, how crowded any spot is at the time = how much demand, whether there may be a good spot up that hill etc S

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 01:25, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > Volker Schmidt: > > Be careful: oneway=* is a legal access tag, only valid for vehicles, not > for pedestrians. > > > We do have a lot of highway=footway,oneway=yes > Also know of suspended Tree Walk walkways e.g. https://www.openstree

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 16:22, Volker Schmidt wrote: > The problem is that we frequently have cycleways or food-cycle-ways that > are legally oneway for cyclists, but not for pedestrians. They are tagged > "oneway=yes". I agree we need a oneway tag for pedestrians, but it cannot > be a simple one

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

Not arguing, but oneway:foot = 5024 foot:backward = 394 foot:forward = 300 Personally, I would interpret that as time that the wiki had a rewrite! :-) Thanks Graeme On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 19:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > On 11 Sep 2023, a

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Documenting feet as an an optional elevation unit

In regard to "exact" accuracy, spotted this article a few weeks ago in regard to the Japanese earthquake: https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/society/noto-peninsula-earthquake/20240111-161375/ 70cm / 28" to 2m / 6'6" horizontal & 3cm / 1.25" to 1.3m / 4'4" vertical movement! :-( Thanks Graeme On

Re: [Tagging] Defibrillators

Tag already set-up for them, Tim: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=defibrillator?uselang=en Some groups are also working on mapping them as well. Whereabouts are you? Thanks Graeme On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 10:43, Timothy Noname wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking at creating/documentin

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

Completely aside from mapping them in OSM, but how do horses handle the steps in the bridleway? Thanks Graeme On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 05:41, Peter Neale via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Hi DaveF, > > Acting on advice, I have already split the Bridleway and re-tagged 2 > section

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

Thanks, all! Graeme On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 18:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2024 um 09:47 Uhr schrieb Jo : > >> I was wondering about that myself. They seem to be 'long' steps. So a >> horse wouldn't have too much trouble with them. >> > > > > there is this property whi

Re: [Tagging] Difference between "yes" and "designated" in access tags

On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 at 16:36, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > At least in Poland we distinguish between > signage with legal implications and route > markers. > > In fact, some bicycle trails are signed where > cycling is illegal > So does that then make it l

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

On Thu, 2 May 2024 at 21:21, bkil wrote: > Yes, that would be even better. > sells:bread=wholemeal:x;y;wholemeal:z > But if you're selling ="white variety-a", "wholemeal variety-a", "multi-grain variety-a", "gluten-free variety-a", then the same for varieties b, c & so on, I can see a 255-charac

[Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Flowlines

Where a watercourse enters a lake and ceases to be recognizable as a stream or river, start a way tagged waterway=flowline. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Flowlines NB This is nothing to do with me I am only posting it to list per request from OP ( JesseFTW

[Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - One-way for pedestrians

Please see https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/rfc-feature-proposal-one-way-for-pedestrians/118192 NB I am only posting this link, the proposal is not mine! Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.

[Tagging] [Voting] Feature Proposal - denomination=latter_day_saint (for real this time)

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/voting-feature-proposal-denomination-latter-day-saint-for-real-this-time/118759 NB I am just posting it here, it is not my proposal! Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.op

[Tagging] Covered walkways?

Doing some mapping around one of the local schools & wondering about the best way to map covered walkways? https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/-28.06022/153.42615 A lot of skinny roofs, with highway=footway + covered=yes drawn under them, or simply just footway + covered, which would indica

Re: [Tagging] Adding man_made=spoil_heap to the Map Features page?

Or Australia! & is there any reason *not* to add things to the map features page? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Adding man_made=spoil_heap to the Map Features page?

Yep, there's a lot on it, & it takes a while to open. But there's also no reason not to make use of it! The people on this list are, I would say, well & truly towards the more experienced end of the OSM spectrum, so you may not use it (although I still do when I can't remember exactly what I want

Re: [Tagging] Features underwater (inside reservoirs)

On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 04:24, Cornelis wrote: > > • The bridge does not fall dry every autumn but* only in hot years with > little rain*, thus in the concrete situation seasonal seems not the best > tag from my point of view. Intermittent is more strictly bound to water, so > that won't apply eit

Re: [Tagging] Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?

On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 06:30, Clifford Snow wrote: > > > Sorry - I should have been clearer on #3. The red dot is a validation > warning that the two ways intersect, but it isn't marked as a crossing. > (Not having a go at you, Clifford, just using your comment as an example! :-)) "Recently" (2

Re: [Tagging] Help explain the difference between path and track

On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 05:47, Tod Fitch wrote: > > “Greenway” [1] was a term unknown to me too > I only found out when I looked at the link you provided that we have "foreshoreways", & one most prominently mentioned is only about 2k from where I live! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenway_(lan

Re: [Tagging] Help explain the difference between path and track

On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 11:31, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 02:10, Mike Thompson wrote: > >> I don't think anyone is saying that tracks can't have additional uses, >> just that one of those uses has to be forestry, agriculture (and maybe >> mineral extraction/energy). >> > > They HA

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

Certainly milk churns in Australia - at least to this Older English Speaker! :-), even though TBMK they are no longer actually used. Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Are rowboats covered by "boat=*" or "canoe=*"?

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 14:31, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > But should rowboat access restrictions be under this key > canoe=yes/no/designated, or are they under boat=yes/no/designated - or > something else? > As a boatie, I would say that rowboats should be a boat, while canoes & kayaks (& surfsk

Re: [Tagging] Mobile phone accessories

On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 04:37, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I would expect a "shop=mobile_phone" to sell mobile phones, so your first > option of "shop=mobile_phone_accessories" is best, though > "shop=phone_accessories" is also a good option. > Shop=phone_accessories could also mean accessories f

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bubble_tea

Don't know if it's only an Aussie thing (yet again! :-)), but we have (at least) one franchise of shops called Boost Juice https://www.boostjuice.com.au/, which only serve varieties of fruit juice & smoothies. Every one of them that I have seen are kiosks inside shopping centres, with no seating p

Re: [Tagging] Central European insight needed: cukrászda, cukrárna, cukiernia, ciastkarnia, cukráreň, pasticceria, konditorei, patisserie, ...

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 08:59, Paul Allen wrote: > Harder, as somebody else pointed out, is a McDonalds with seats. It's > fast food, but it has seats. I'd map it as a cafe with takeaway=yes since > we don't appear to have the option for fast food with seating=yes. > But McDonalds call themselv

Re: [Tagging] Central European insight needed: cukrászda, cukrárna, cukiernia, ciastkarnia, cukráre?, pasticceria, konditorei, patisserie, ...

On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 23:20, Paul Allen wrote: > Except we don't have seating=yes. We can differentiate > with takeaway=yes|no|only. However, apart from the chip shop and a > Greggs, all > the fast food joints near me that I can recollect are takeaway=only. > But then how do we handle food pl

Re: [Tagging] Is there any case of valid numeric addr:housename - for example addr:housename?

On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 23:08, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > We have 15000 addresses such as addr:housename=3 ( > http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/VBS ) > That search is producing an error for me, once over Australia & then again for Western Europe: " This query re

Re: [Tagging] Is there any case of valid numeric addr:housename - for example addr:housename?

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 12:26, Andrew Davidson wrote: > > The query only returns a count of how many elements it found. If you want > to map them you'll need a modified version: > > http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/VDp > Thanks! Graeme ___ Tagging mailing l

[Tagging] Open-air stage

Trying to tag this outdoor stage: https://hota.com.au/hota-precinct/ https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/-28.00213/153.41696 (Best image is off Maxar Premium if it doesn't come through?) The photo is of the outdoor stage (the actual stage itself is behind the closed doors), with a roof over

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bubble_tea

On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 19:36, 德泉 談 via Tagging wrote: > > The proposal would introduce a new tag (maybe amenity=drinks or > amenity=takeout_drinks or what). This kind of places sell beverages mostly > with takeaway paper or plastic cup, people can drink in their home or > office after buying. > >

Re: [Tagging] How to map terrace buildings with names

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 07:45, Paul Allen wrote: > > Building for the house, node for the workplace. Micromappers will be upset > unless you place the workplace node precisely, of course, but you probably > have never been inside so don't know. That's assuming it still is being > used as a combin

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 19:22, Jake Edmonds via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: I've got to say that personally, I don't think there's a need for a separate "speciality" tag, but regardless of that, I'd like to know what an > Independent, ‘Australian-style’, or artisan cafes > Australia

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

Thanks! Graeme On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 08:13, Jake Edmonds via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Sorry Graeme, that should have said American style, where the waitress is > refilling mugs from a carafe > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@open

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 23:33, Paul Allen wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 23:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> >> but regardless of that, I'd like to know what an >> >>> Independent, ‘Australian-style’, or artisan cafes >>> >> Australia

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 08:07, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 22:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> >> Something to do with kangaroos, is my guess. >>> >> >> Check 1:53 & a few seconds after! :-) >> > > You seem to have for

Re: [Tagging] Distinguishing closed office spaces and client service locations?

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 at 00:05, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > > I think this makes sense also. To a previous point, I take > access=customers to mean someone intending to visit the associated > location, whether that's a store, a church, a doctor's office, ... > > BTW, I've used access=customers for par

Re: [Tagging] Distinguishing closed office spaces and client service locations?

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 at 00:53, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I was thinking about space that explicitly welcomes walk-ins and exists > solely to > handle them (office of an energy company - handling issues such as > resolving > billing mistakes, handling over

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 19:19, Michael Montani wrote: > > Tag: natural = bare_ground (but many other options are open to discussion). > Description: "An area covered by soil, without any vegetation" > I agree that we need some way to tag areas like those in Somalia that you posted, but I have som

Re: [Tagging] How to map terrace buildings with names

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 at 00:33, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > > - Semi-detached house: A set of row houses with exactly two connected > units. (IMO this is a somewhat stupid distinction likely created by > realtors for marketing purposes.) > & for us, that's a duplex eg https://www.google.com.au/maps/@

Re: [Tagging] Waterway equivalent of noexit=yes?

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 01:27, Tod Fitch wrote: > > We are still left with the situation where an ephemeral waterway fans out > over the desert and disappears. We need some sort of tagging to indicate > this is not a mistake and I’ve not seen a tag or value come up in this > discussion that has an

Re: [Tagging] How to map "piers" on land?

& for one that IMHO is quite correctly tagged as a pier over it's full length: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/18776776#map=17/-27.93856/153.43009 https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/10370420-3x2-700x467.jpg Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Taggi

Re: [Tagging] How to map "piers" on land?

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 02:50, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > > Do we really not have a way to tag *platforms*? > We do have man_made=platform https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/573403125, but it doesn't render in any way :-( https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-28.120497,153.4735093,3a,15y,56h,87.11t/data

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 12:22, Clifford Snow wrote: > > The agreed upon tag for reservations is boundary=aboriginal_lands. It's > used extensively in the US, Including the Mohawk Nation and across the > Saint Lawrence River in Canada. We don't have consensus on how to tag off > reservation land tru

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 13:12, Tod Fitch wrote: > > Assuming that NPR is not geo-restricted to the US: > > > https://www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-of-oklahoma-is-indian-land > Thanks, Tod! Going to be interesting to see where this goes in the future. Graeme

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 18:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Proposal: service=access_collector > Sorry, means nothing, at least to me? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 05:49, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > So what all these have in common is that they are not public roads not > intended for through-traffic. They are all on private/public properties. > So maybe they could be summarized under service=property, with a > description like "roads on (p

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 01:10, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > > It's also often unclear if an otherwise undesignated road with > provides access to, or navigation of, a larger area (consider a mall > perimeter road as an example), should be a "driveway". > > *If* we need a tag (on which note, I'll point

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 06:43, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > I have previously proposed that estuaries should be mapped by extending > the coastline upstream to the limit of the estuary, and also mapping the > area of the estuary as water with water=estuary > Good solution! It's not one thing or th

Re: [Tagging] Waterway equivalent of noexit=yes?

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 06:20, Tod Fitch wrote: > I’ve yet to find a term or tag name that I like for the case where the > water disappears from the surface in a desert environment. & I don't think you're going to find one, because there's "nothing" to point to on the ground & say "There, that's

Re: [Tagging] Waterway equivalent of noexit=yes?

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 07:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 3. Aug 2020, at 22:10, Tod Fitch wrote: > > > > Looking at wikipedia, it seems that “storm drain” is used in the UK, > Canada and the US [1]. And there is an “inlet” [2] associated with it. What > are the opinions using: > > > > st

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 10:17, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 19:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > No, driveway/-through is good for a fuel station, as well as anywhere > else that you don't get out of your car to be served eg take-away, car > wash, bo

Re: [Tagging] Apparent conflicting/redundant access tags

OK, now you've all got me confused! I always thought that access=yes means that it is open to the general public, while access=no means that it's not open to the public? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.ope

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

Just to open a different semantic can of worms concerning the spots these hire "scooters" are left ... :-) Are they "parked"? To me, I "park" my car in a parking space, come back to it after shopping & drive home, or I "park" my bicycle in a rack at the beach, wrap a chain around the wheel, then

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - more parking types

On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 03:39, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > We already have capacity and capacity=disabled, what's the problem with > adding more > capacity:*? > But what number do we show for "capacity"? I started wondering about this after one of the carparks you mentioned in Quantico recently show

Re: [Tagging] Tagging specialized head lice removal salons

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 21:28, Paul Allen wrote: > There are many types of clinic with different specialties. I would hope > that a user > would look to see what type of clinic it is rather than wander into a > clinic and hope > it happens to specialize in that user's problem. > & that can still

Re: [Tagging] tourism=caravan_site versus tourism=camp_site: camping with a tent

But what do you do for a place, called a Camping Ground, that is a big area of grass, mostly without defined "pitches" & where you can camp anyway you like: sleep in your car; on the ground; in a tent / camper trailer / caravan / motorhome? Any period is acceptable, from one night only up to "by d

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 07:59, António Madeira via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > In this > > section, I suggest changing the text: > "These ways should all point direction of travel and be tagged with > oneway=y

Re: [Tagging] Waterway equivalent of noexit=yes?

On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 00:57, Paul Allen wrote: > > I'm not saying that OS is right to make those distinctions. I'm not saying > we should automatically do what they do. But I do think we ought to > consider > what they've done and think about it before committing ourselves. > "Maybe" (as OSM

Re: [Tagging] Tagging specialized head lice removal salons

healthcare= seems a better option. > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > I've just had a hip replacement done, so saw the orthopaedic surgeon this > week for a follow up. While I was waiting, his receptionist took a call, & > had to tell the

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 05:51, Colin Smale wrote: > > > On the other hand using the "1-5" notation to indicate a range is pretty >> well understood in the UK at least. What it is missing is the >> "interpolation" value (even, odd, all). >> So let us sort this mess out by defining: >> 1) that a hyp

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 09:38, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > There is already an existing tag with similar meaning for funeral homes / > funeral halls / funeral directors: shop=funeral_directors. > The use of the key "shop=" is odd, but it's been used over 20,000 times so > it seems to be well establ

Re: [Tagging] Tagging specialized head lice removal salons

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 20:32, Philip Barnes wrote: > > I would not expect this to be something my hairdresser would deal with. > You saying that just jogged a memory loose from deep down inside somewhere! Quite a few years ago now, one of the girls I worked with, also ran a part-time job as a m

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 07:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Or maybe footway=canopy_walkway? highway= Footway and bridge=yes seem > essential for a basic description. > The combination of the three of them seems like a good, simple solution! Thanks Graeme _

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 16:46, Volker Schmidt wrote: > The footway= approach isn't so good. A canopy walkway is more a bridge > type. > True, but you still have to walk across it! Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https:

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:53, Cj Malone < me-osm-tagg...@keepawayfromfire.co.uk> wrote: > 1 - It was introduced by a novice mapper, presumably as a typeo. > Not picking on Nathan, as we've all had the occasional ooops! Reading through it though, I noticed though that he used iD, & ticked the box

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 05:55, Thibault Molleman wrote: > This is a simple example: https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEQiB4X6BA3doK7T7 > one building, one unit/flat on each floor. > mailbox at the front for all 3 units. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/675768351 > > currently mapped as: > addr:house

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 08:13, Clifford Snow wrote: > osmcha.org picks up the review request. Their interface makes it easy to > view and post a comment back to the user. > Thanks! Not exactly a very user-friendly system though, especially if you're only trying to review requested changes? & wi

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 23:45, Paul Allen wrote: > > Theyargued that name should be the name of the road and bridge:name should > be used for the name of the bridge. Which did nothing to change all > the existing bridges mapped the old way, and didn't get incorporated > in carto immediately (has

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 09:43, Paul Allen wrote: > > Either we come up with very specific tags for ever particular variation > of every type of object that could be used to deter sleeping (or > skateboarding, or urination, or whatever) or we come up with a > a general tag (hostile_architecture=yes

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 12:11, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > In OSMCha you can mark as good or bad, but no way to say it's been > reviewed without explicitly saying good/bad. > Thanks, Andrew! If you mark it as good, does it then disappear, or just sit there forever? Thanks Graeme _

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 10:30, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Draw the bridge outline and tag it with man_made=bridge name=* and you’ll > see what I mean. > Thanks Martin - yep, it works! https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-28.13129/153.48123 Have just fixed a few of them in the general area &

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 19:45, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 25. Aug 2020, at 11:02, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > > > > Better. But why not sitting=no, etc > > it is not clear whether you cannot physically sit there or whether it is > legally forbidden > Does it really matter? If we put

Re: [Tagging] tagging for fairgrounds

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 05:31, Richard Welty wrote: > > again in the US, state and county fairgrounds are permanent facilities > which function as event space when the fair is not actually going on. > the midway is usually temporary, but the buildings for, say, > agricultural exhibits are permanen

Re: [Tagging] What is a proper way of mapping reedbed gowing od edge of the lake, within water?

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 05:11, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > natural=wetland wetland=reedbed area within natural=water area? > > JOSM complains about this ("water area within water area") but > such tagging seems fine to me. > That should be fine. Have done si

Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 09:16, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > Sep 7, 2020, 00:52 by dieterdre...@gmail.com > > why not use > drinking_water=yes for these? > > Because I want to use drinking_water=yes and something indicating that > there is strong > reason to b

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a social vacation centre?

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 09:40, António Madeira wrote: > Hi there. > > How should I tag an area dedicated to vacations, which is not a resort, > only for members of an institution? Those centres are very common near > the sea, and they range from kids camps (sons of government workers), to > bank o

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for board games themed pubs

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 22:06, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging: > > > A lot of pubs have board games available for customers to play, or > they did in > > normal times. > How about pubs that host trivia games one night a week? > could we have something like b

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a social vacation centre?

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 07:01, António Madeira via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I ended choosing leisure=resort. > There is an ill documented key for this tag, which seems to address the > problem of defining the type of resort: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:resort > >

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a social vacation centre?

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 09:54, António Madeira wrote: > > I agree that a resort should be with tourism, but I really don't know the > reasons that made tourism=resort to be deprecated (couldn't find any > discussion about it). > Only "reason" that I can see mentioned is that leisure= is used more

Re: [Tagging] Addition of highway=emergency_bay and priority_road=yes to Map Features?

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 18:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > emergency bays are quite common in Italy and Germany when there isn’t an > emergency lane. > Quite common on major highways out here as well. Very handy thing to know if e.g. you have a flat tyre & you can see that there's a stopping

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 20:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > while the very generic crossing=marked, which was quite unpopular before > (2013-2018 below 6000 uses) now went through the roof and is leading the > tagstats with more than 1 million uses. > You may find that it is partly, at least, iD'

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 06:58, Paul Allen wrote: > > Maybe "zebra crossing" should be a region-specific editor > preset and generates a tag(s) indicating priority of the pedestrian > and under what circumstances: "crossing, indicated by surface > markings, pedestrian has priority after stepping on

Re: [Tagging] Large fire perimeter tagging?

We discussed this back in January at the height of the Australian fires https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2020-January/013527.html Consensus was that damaged areas shouldn't be mapped in OSM as they are only temporary, no matter how bad they look *now* :-( Thanks Graeme _

Re: [Tagging] Tagging specialized head lice removal salons

On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 01:41, Lisbeth Salander wrote: > I've finally updated a draft proposal to the wiki: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Head_lice_removal_salons > > Let's see if something comes out of it. > Hopefully, dead lice! :-) Looks good to me, with only two t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 00:39, Paul Allen wrote: > > More important is if there is a sign, > Hand-painted signs saying "Horse manure", "Avo's", "Firewood", "Eggs" & so on good enough? We see lot's of them whenever we go for a drive in the country, & even the occasional one in town! shop=farm_gat

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 08:03, Peter Elderson wrote: > Is it private sale? > Yes On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 08:31, Paul Allen wrote: > > More than good enough for me. It's verifiable, so ought to be good enough > for > anybody else. I'm interested in cheap test equipment, are the Avos old or > new

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 09:32, Paul Allen wrote: > > However, if we count that as a farm shop then the term essentially becomes > an alias of greengrocer. > A greengrocer with a single supplier, but still a greengrocer. > True, but under that theory, there's no difference between a convenience sto

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 22:38, Paul Allen wrote: > > I can't find that in ID. Is that the raw tag it produces or just the name > of > the preset that gives shop=farm? When I use ID that preset identifies > itself as farm shop but ID may have localized that name for American > usage. > Sorry, yes

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Takeaway drink shops

On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 16:46, 德泉 談 via Tagging wrote: > Dear All, > > The voting of the takeaway drink shops is on, please vote the proposal > here: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Takeaway_drink_shops What's the actual name of the proposal? Is it amenity=drinks? The pa

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