Re: [Tagging] parking spaces limited to cars (no busses, trucks, etc.)

2011-04-30 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 15:10 +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > Am 30.04.2011 um 12:10 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: > > > 2011/4/29 Stefan Bethke : > >> It appears that people have been using "car" as a key for this purpose. > >> Should I use that, and add an appropriate entry below motorcar=*? > > >

Re: [Tagging] parking spaces limited to cars (no busses, trucks, etc.)

2011-04-30 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 00:56 +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > > Maybe the alternative is to instead tag that its only suitable for > > single-tracked vehicles (ie. access=no motorbike=yes) rather than trying > > to figure out what isnt allowed? From how I read the discussion that > > seems to be the

Re: [Tagging] parking spaces limited to cars (no busses, trucks, etc.)

2011-04-30 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 17:08 +0200, Sebastian Hohmann wrote: > But don't forget bicycle=yes, foot=yes, horse=yes, skating=yes, dog=yes, ... But is bicycle/horse/skate/dog parking allowed? This is a discussion of how to tag limited access to parking, in which case you dont need to say what IS allo

Re: [Tagging] parking spaces limited to cars (no busses, trucks, etc.)

2011-04-30 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 02:10 +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > hgv=no might or might not be understood to include busses, but it > certainly would not imply cars with a trailer, or small caravans. If I was towing a caravan, I wouldnt set my navigation device to think Im in a car or a motorbike, Id mos

Re: [Tagging] music clubs tagging

2011-05-06 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:35 +0200, Karel Kuželka wrote: > Hello, > we are mapping cultural and entertainment objects in Prague and have > trouble tagging MUSIC CLUBS, places to listen to LIVE music (e.g. jazz > clubs, rock clubs etc) > > > It seems an appropriate map feature is lacking. > The cl

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - childcare

2011-05-09 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 11:36 -0500, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > I notice the suggested rendering is similar to schools. Don't know > about other areas, but in the US, many childcare centers are run out > of private homes, so that rendering might seem a little strange. > Maybe in that case a node is a

Re: [Tagging] [Spam?] JOSM wiki Potlatch2 In consistences fishmonger vs. seafood

2011-05-16 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 00:02 -0700, Sam Vekemans wrote: > The Wiki has > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dseafood > "A shop selling fish/seafood." > ... > Alternative names during the discussion on the tagging mailinglist > were: > > * shop=fish - To be easily confused with pet

Re: [Tagging] [Spam?] JOSM wiki Potlatch2 In consistences fishmonger vs. seafood

2011-05-16 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 18:10 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/5/16 David Murn : > > I agree. I think seafood is a more generic proposal than 'fishmonger' > > which may not be understood as widely. > > shop=fishmonger is the standard term every German-Engli

Re: [Tagging] [Spam?] JOSM wiki Potlatch2 In consistences fishmonger vs. seafood

2011-05-16 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 01:33 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/5/17 David Murn : > > I think fishmonger is the shop/retailer, seafood is the product. > > would you use seafood for freshwater fish? And if yes, also if they > sell only freshwater fish? I think its just a

Re: [Tagging] steps as access to water, and waterfront

2011-06-03 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 15:36 +0200, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi, > > How would you tag steps that provide access to water? See here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhodes/5793021284 Im trying to map a similar situation, except in my case the bottom 2 steps are underwater at high-tide. This makes

Re: [Tagging] fire alarms

2011-06-05 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 15:58 +0200, fly wrote: > I wonder why many people try to force the approval of a tag by fast > votes on the wiki. A tag gets approved by uses in the data and software > handling it. Which raises another point, that if you really want to get your proposal accepted more rapidl

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Club

2011-06-07 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 22:15 +0100, ael wrote: > Seriously, in the UK, "I am going to my club" would normally be > understood to refer to some such institution, at least among some > sections of the community. In Australia, 'going to the club' means (generally) going to a licenced members-only v

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-15 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 12:48 +0100, Dave F. wrote: > On 14/06/2011 19:49, Peter Svensson wrote: > > This tag might be useful for subjective tagging for bikes: > > Please avoid subjective tagging, because, err... it's subjective. For > confusing examples refer to the page you linked to. Out of int

Re: [Tagging] service=drive-through or drive_through?

2011-06-29 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 20:51 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: > I would not be surprised if there are also some occurrences of > "drive-thru" or "drive_thru". American business people seem to prefer > to write "thru" rather than "through", so much so that some members of > the public probably are

Re: [Tagging] Draft - Vegetarian/Vegan

2011-02-14 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 18:53 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/2/14 Tom Chance : > AFAIK there is quite a lot of differentiation in the vegetarian > community (e.g. Ovo, lacto, ovo-lacto, veganism, raw veganism, > fruitarianism, buddhist vegetarianism) if you are an expert in this > field, m

Re: [Tagging] airport vs. aerodrome

2011-02-15 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 13:24 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:02 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >(I know, don't tag for the renderers > > Can we just ban that ridiculous, misquoted and harmful commandment? > Taking into account renderer support for current and proposed

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Underground / hovering buildings

2011-02-15 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 01:52 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/2/16 Nathan Edgars II : > >> -1, > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Layer > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:layer > > our wiki is becoming something like the bible: you can find a page for > every opinion ;-) Thats

Re: [Tagging] airport vs. aerodrome

2011-02-16 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 23:22 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: > Err, as I said, quibbles about aerodrome vs airport. Do we really want > the ability to store aircraft to be the distinguishing feature between > an airport and an aerodrome? Its not so much about whether you can store aircraft, but that o

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] [Spam?]Re: [Spam?]Re: Underground / hovering buildings

2011-02-18 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 11:16 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/2/18 David Murn : > > Because the use of (min_)levels,height is in use by 3D renderers and > > > IMHO this min_level-part of the advanced building proposal is not > working (is using wrong semanti

Re: [Tagging] Locating the voting page for a tag

2011-03-13 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 14:16 -0700, Paul Norman wrote: > While looking into some issues around a bad import, I ran across > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap/Lights_Data_Model but > was unable to find a page with voting or discussion. Not every tag has to be voted on. Some wiki pages e

Re: [Tagging] optimizing the payment tag

2011-03-17 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 19:56 +0100, Flaimo wrote: > i would like to rewrite the wiki page for payment so there is a > consistent payment:=yes/no scheme (like the fuel types > for example). currently there is a mixture of boolean and list values > which is not good for programmatic processing. Im in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-21 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 14:52 +0100, Flaimo wrote: > ok, i see what you mean now. use amenity=parking for the whole > facility, and the new tags for defining the elements inside. In the case of the roads inside a parking area, there already exists highway=service, service=parking_aisle. http://wiki

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-02 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 14:42 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> > >> This (new ?) schema seems not often used (some plant has the 2). > > > > Excellent example of wiki fiddling ... > > > at least this was discussed and voted about: Im sure I remember seeing this discussed either on here or po

Re: [Tagging] Retaking the discussion on ATMs

2011-04-02 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 10:33 +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: > We've agreed in the spanish list to add the network tag to the ATM, so if > there is no discussion against here, I will add that to the wiki. The amenity=fuel tag schema uses: payment:credit_cards=mastercard;visa;diners_club;ameri

Re: [Tagging] Retaking the discussion on ATMs

2011-04-02 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 20:12 +1100, David Murn wrote: > On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 10:33 +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: > > We've agreed in the spanish list to add the network tag to the ATM, so if > > there is no discussion against here, I will add that to the wiki. >

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-02 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 12:11 +0200, Ulf Lamping wrote: > Am 02.04.2011 11:03, schrieb David Murn: > > > If someone comes up with a proposal, discusses it on mailing lists, > > emails current users of the tag, casts and finishes a vote, how on earth > > can you call it wiki

Re: [Tagging] Retaking the discussion on ATMs

2011-04-02 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 20:42 +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 20:12 +1100, David Murn wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 10:33 +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: > > > > We've agreed in the spanish list to add the network tag to th

Re: [Tagging] power line with different wired cables

2011-04-04 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 10:57 +0200, fly wrote: > Hi > > I have found a power line with 3 quad-wired cables on one side and 3 > doubled-wired cables on the other. > > Should I use left/right for this ? Since this is actually 2 lines simply following the same path, I suggest using cables=6 wires=do

Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo

2011-04-08 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 15:24 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: > Also locally, a "gymnasium" is a large indoor sport floor which can be > configured for multiple sports like gymnastics, basketball, > volleyball, murderball, etc. taginfo says only 16 instances of > leisure=gymnasium are in OSM at the mom

Re: [Tagging] access forbidden for tourist busses

2011-04-12 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 12:01 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/4/12 John Smith : > > >> My first idea was "tourist_bus=no" > > > > Why not use access:*=* ? > > > Usually we tag foot=no instead of access:foot=no, and I don't see why > I should change this standard here. To be fair, using t

Re: [Tagging] convention for multiple maxspeed values

2011-04-25 Thread David Murn
I mapped a road the other day which was exactly like this (different speeds) and wondered exactly the same thing. The signs I saw applied to trucks and buses though, more than just hgv/goods. As Tobias said, your suggestion is suitable, Id add the suggestion of maxspeed:bus also. David On Sun,

Re: [Tagging] convention for multiple maxspeed values

2011-04-25 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 13:27 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/4/25 David Murn : > > The signs I saw applied to > > trucks and buses though, more than just hgv/goods. As Tobias said, your > > suggestion is suitable, Id add the suggestion of maxspeed:bus also. > The

Re: [Tagging] branch=* tag to specify the particular branch of a chain of stores/amenities

2011-04-27 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 07:34 +0800, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brand > > "The brand=* is a larger entity that a place advertises itself as part of" > > Which means that you put "Burger King" or "Barclay's" or "McDonald's" > into the brand t

Re: [Tagging] What to map a site of historical significants...

2011-04-27 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 19:33 +0100, Laurence Penney wrote: > Historical event geotagging could rapidly get out of hand. This feels > to me very much orthogonal to OSM - almost every news story, photo, > work of art, etc arguably deserves a geotag, but hardly any of them > deserve to be in OSM. I ag