Re: [Tagging] bridge=humpback ?

2014-08-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
risk_of_grounding=yes ? On Aug 10, 2014 5:14 PM, "Colin Smale" wrote: > It is neither constructed with the intention of calming traffic, nor is > it intended as any kind of barrier (a bridge is usually exactly the > opposite!) Let us not be afraid of using a different tag for what is > clearly a

Re: [Tagging] bridge=humpback ?

2014-08-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 August 2014 17:28, Christopher Hoess wrote: > I'd like to float another proposal bridge=pontoon? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstree

[Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
solve this? What should we sue to link to Wikimedia commons categories like: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:St_Paul,_Birmingham I've previously used Wikimedia_Commons=, but that's verbose; and I seem to be alone in doing so. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://

Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 August 2014 19:45, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Andy Mabbett > wrote: >> >> What should we sue to link to Wikimedia commons categories like: >> >>https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:St_Paul,_Birming

Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
) I'd also suggest the long form as you do (but without > capitalization). OK, how's this : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikimedia_commons as a start? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
he format: https://wikimedia_commons=File:St Paul Birmingham from south PP.jpg -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 August 2014 13:43, fly wrote: > Please, move it under the proposal name space. To what end? Is there a counter proposal that means this might not be used? Is there significant opposition, that means this might not be used? Or is this just needless bureaucracy? -- Andy Mabb

Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
ach category will probably have it's own ID as well. The problem is, this > won't come out for another year, more or less. At which point a script can be used to flip existing tags to the new structure. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 August 2014 23:38, Tobias Knerr wrote: > The key itself is probably relatively uncontroversial, but the details > need some discussion. I guess that's why we use a wiki, not tablets of stone. Be my guest. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthe

Re: [Tagging] Forest vs Wood

2014-08-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Aug 20, 2014 6:45 PM, "Rob Nickerson" wrote: > Forest: Managed woodland or woodland plantation Who planted or manages the rain forests? -- Andy Mabbett ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood

2014-08-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
I'd suggest surface=timber & surface= woodchip On Aug 22, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mateusz Konieczny" wrote: > I discovered* that surface=wood is ambiguous and may mean two very > different things: > 1) paths with wood chips > 2) paths paved with wooden planks (for example > > https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Tagging] Mapping cave tunnels passable by human

2014-08-24 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 August 2014 16:10, Pieren wrote: > correct me if I'm wrong but a cave is always > underground Not strictly speaking; some are in the sides of (near) vertical cliff faces or mountain sides, with no horizontal, accessible ground above them. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsont

Re: [Tagging] Contact-Tag for Webcam

2014-08-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 August 2014 18:44, Andreas Neumann wrote: > there exists a tagging for webcams in the > contact-namespace (contact:webcam=*) Is this a mis-named operator:contact= ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ T

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
This all seems sensible, with the exception that I can only ever recall seeing the former referred to as "Google +", and I think most people will use the "+" sign. On Aug 29, 2014 10:39 AM, "Andreas Neumann" wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to unify the keys for google-plus-pages of objects in the >

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
m * smooth * very smooth or suchlike might be better, but even then I doubt three mappers would always agree on which to use for a given place. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 31 August 2014 10:50, Janko Mihelić wrote: > we can define them on the wiki as anything we like and > then expect mappers to use them according to that > definition I'd like to see some evidence for that; or indeed that most mappers refer to the wiki (even indirectly) at

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of movie rental kiosk

2014-08-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 31 August 2014 13:20, Hans De Kryger wrote: > Anyone know of any tag for a movie rental kiosk? historic= ? ;-) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
ths, tracks and trails. Perhaps we need: surface=unpaved surface_terrain=X where X can be smooth, rutted, impassible or whatever. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstre

Re: [Tagging] The "not-shops": industrial, industry, or business

2014-09-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
generic -> specific tagging? Speaking more generally, there exist several taxonomies and schemas, from which we could borrow. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openst

Re: [Tagging] The "not-shops": industrial, industry, or business

2014-09-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
;). You mean people tend not to "tag for the renderer"? Good. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] How to tag a landmark clock

2014-09-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
How should this clock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamberlain_Clock http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/187104810 be tagged? It's a notable landmark, but not a memorial. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Ta

Re: [Tagging] RFC Bag shop

2014-10-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 October 2014 11:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Leaving out those not relevant for plural/singular > shoes Who buys shoes singly? [1] [1] Apart from amputees... -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ T

Re: [Tagging] Various alt_name values?

2014-11-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
the way. Could you provide some examples of where each of these scenarios has caused problems, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Adding water=fishpond to the wiki

2015-01-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
;biw=1366&bih=657 See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_pond -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] barrier=net ?

2015-01-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 7 January 2015 at 09:00, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > Will you base your wiki definition upon poodles? Post of the year! -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Tagging] Ethnic shops

2015-01-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 16 January 2015 at 12:29, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > convenience=polish That needs a sub-tag: polish=she polish-furniture polish=window ;-) More seriously: I would borrow from existing tags, for restaurants, and use cuisine=polish -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing h

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
f the list's moderators reading? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
lled "Wikidata item". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
eadable, and typos will not be > noticed. So have editing software fetch the title from Wikidata; it has an open and free API. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://li

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
_features/Sanitary_Station http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:seamark:small_craft_facility:category%3Dpump-out The former pair both suggest "Obsoleted by Tag:amenity=waste_disposal, waste=excrement": http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waste -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://p

Re: [Tagging] Electronic or 'e' cigarettes?

2015-02-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 January 2015 at 18:00, fly wrote: > Anyway, I do not know a single shop in my area which only sells them so > shop=* will never fit. "Never"? I'm reminded of the maxim that "the singular of data is not anecdote". (There are several such shops in m

Re: [Tagging] Electronic or 'e' cigarettes?

2015-02-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
up, More environmentally-damaging stupidity:-( -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 February 2015 at 00:04, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > leisure=maze 77 > attraction=maze 147 > > So the usage is split about even.. Looks more like 1:2 to me. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

[Tagging] Bird hides

2015-03-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
h way the hide faces). Some are at ground level, some are raised, and some have two or more viewing levels. There are pictures at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_hide and: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bird_hides Suggestions? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 March 2015 at 09:18, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Here in Thailand, and especially in rural areas, there are hundreds of shops > that sell motor fuel in small quantities. amenity=fuel fuel=bottled -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 March 2015 at 21:46, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > The existence of a roof does not identify > a 'regular filling station' to me. amenity=fuel pumps=8 vs. amenity=fuel pumps=0 ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http:

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 9 April 2015 at 01:52, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Say a mapper tags > > temperature=42 Under what circumstances would such a tag be used. How would we know that the actual temperature is not 41 or 43? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigso

Re: [Tagging] Meeting point

2015-04-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 25 April 2015 at 19:58, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > It's an amenity to me. +1 > And I've used them. +1 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.o

[Tagging] Tag:natural=tree and taxon names

2015-04-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
The wiki page for "Tag:natural=tree:" http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree includes: taxon=* and: species=* genus=* The latter pair is a subset of the former; and thus redundant. How should this be resolved? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonth

Re: [Tagging] Tag:natural=tree and taxon names

2015-04-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
or between: taxon=Quercus and genus=Quercus ? Why would we ever need: taxon=Quercus_robur and genus=Quercus ? What can species= and genus= do, that taxon= cannot? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Taggi

Re: [Tagging] Tag:natural=tree and taxon names

2015-04-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 April 2015 at 07:16, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Andy Mabbett > wrote: >> >> What can species= and genus= do, that taxon= cannot? > > > If all you know is the species, you can feel comfortable tagging the > species. That doesn&#

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
27;s an abstention. Indeed, it may reasonably be argued that of they choose not to comment on a proposal to do something, then they are content with the proposal. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 6 May 2015 at 17:41, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > On 05/05/2015, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> If people choose not to (or are "not bothered to") comment, that's an >> abstention. >> >> Indeed, it may reasonably be argued that of they choose not to comment &

Re: [Tagging] [Wiki Talk] Why OSM and not another collaborative mapping service?

2015-05-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
nce, when the paper version is no longer available * Ease of access by people remote from the location of paper copies * Copy & pastable text, avaialbe for reuse in other publications * Version tracking * Easy to link to from other websites/ social media -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http

Re: [Tagging] surface=pebbles -> surface=pebblestone ?

2015-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
ge of the latter outweighs the former by almost 100 times: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?word1=pebblestones&word2=pebbles -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org h

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
y a plaque Really: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Memorial ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
smonuments.org/ for example. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] surface=pebbles -> surface=pebblestone ?

2015-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobblestone (regional dialects may differ) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] surface=brick -> surface=bricks?

2015-05-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 May 2015 at 06:05, Andrew Errington wrote: > "Is there any good reason to avoid changing existing surface=brick to > surface=bricks?" > > Yes. In English, brick can be an adjective as well as a noun. As an > adjective, as it is here, it should have no &

[Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
How should we tag man=made, ornamental water features, which are not fountains? For example, a cascade? The wiki pages at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Water http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain are of little help in this regard. -- Andy Mabbett

Re: [Tagging] Estate agent

2015-05-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
very successful, moved to larger premises, elsewhere, and the former baker's shop is now a cheese shop. Did the middle premises stop being a shop, and then start being a shop again? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2015 at 12:25, pmailkeey . wrote: > 'Pond' seems to fit the bill: No, it does not. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
ht fit. Probably, but I'd like more opinions; and other options - cascades are just one example. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
ains, moats, etc. We might, for example, have: natural=water water=cascde etc. - but not: water=fountain as we already have amenity=fountain or we could have: amenity=cascade -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk __

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
hen would you describe: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Water_Feature_in_Cabot_Place,_Canary_Wharf_%282%29_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1472986.jpg ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 May 2015 at 15:54, Andy Mabbett wrote: > How, then would you describe: Or these: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Site_of_Priory_Mill_-_geograph.org.uk_-_288573.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Luxury_apartments,_Dickens_Heath_Village,_Solihu

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
atgs whenver appraoraite, bit for objects, and for things like etymologies, architects etc. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
ost common usecase), using the wikipedia tag is much more > straightforward than using the wikidata tag Except when the Wikipedia article has been moved and the old name reused. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging m

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
> spot possible errors or control what you have just entered yourself. That seems to be a chicken-and-egg problem. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
hy objects with a wikipedia article will also have a > wikidata item (and vice-versa), I'd be happy to forget about that > imagined downside of wikidata compared to wikipedia. Not all OSM worthy objects will have a Wikdiata item; but then not all Wiki

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
> Even in the best-case scenario, it > seems that an OSM wikidata tag can drift off-target following > reorganisations that are correct from a wikimedia POV but not from an > OSM POV. Example? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 May 2015 at 00:35, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > On 25/05/2015, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> "On 25 May 2015 at 22:18, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: >> >>> How do you link to a wikidata label in an OSM tag ? One that never >>> suffers from renaming ? As

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 May 2015 at 10:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > how can you edit wikidata? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Introduction -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 May 2015 at 10:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am 26.05.2015 um 11:11 schrieb Andy Mabbett : > >>> a hotel that includes a restaurant. OSM uses >>> two objects from the begining, both linked to the single wikidata >>> article that talks about the hotel

Re: [Tagging] Future of categories (was: Re: Deprecating wikipedia Tag)

2015-05-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
ssification of our objects. Maybe close cooperation or fork would suit > our needs? Fork Wikidata? Why? Doesn't this community have enough to do, just mapping? > Wikimedia already use our data for showing maps in the articles, > so I think it may be beneficial for both parties to

Re: [Tagging] Playground equipment

2015-07-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 July 2015 at 15:37, Marc Gemis wrote: > I have a problem to properly tag tag wooden constructions that typically > consists of platforms, towers, bridges, ropes, etc. I would just tag as "playground=climbingframe" with "material=wood". -- Andy M

Re: [Tagging] Friendliness with attacked mapped places in Paris

2015-11-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
wikipedia > tag) They are not analogous, because Wikipedia URLs are not guaranteed to be stable. And a Wikipedia article title in, say, French is not "human readable" to the majority of people on the planet who do not speak French. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Nov 25, 2015 8:00 AM, "Dave Swarthout" wrote: > > Can someone provide the correct way to tag a wikipedia link? > I want to use a tag written in English that describes a certain tree > Is this correct? > > 1) wikipedia=en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teak > > or this? > > 2) wikipedia:en=wikipedia.org/wi

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
Very > frustrating. I *think* you might be able to resolve that by creating account from another IP address, then logging in via your VPN. Let me know if that doesn't work for you, off-list, with the IP address, and I'll get it resolved some other way. -- Andy Mabbett

Re: [Tagging] Wi-Fi or internet access at Stores

2015-12-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 December 2015 at 03:28, Hans De Kryger wrote: > I'm assuming (Wifi=yes) (wifi_public=no) But can't find any accepted tags in > the wiki. Any suggestions? What would be the point of tagging non-public Wi-Fi? Do you mean Wi-Fi for customer use only? -- Andy Mabbett @pi

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pools

2015-12-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotswold_Water_Park https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsbury_Water_Park -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Street Parking Restrictiion)

2016-01-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 January 2016 at 11:47, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > an empty attempt on > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/StreeT_Parking_Restrictions > that a wiki admin might delete. Deleted. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewi

Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-24 Thread Andy Mabbett
d. > Mires fed by > groundwater or water inflow from the outside are usually not bogs. > See: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mire That's contradicted by: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
nline encyclopedia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder_%28road%29 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stra%C3%9Fenquerschnitt#Seitenstreifen -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

2016-01-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
ms >> > > +1 > This is a clear solution. +1 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
in the UK) where a shoulder is reserved for emergency use, except in certain periods, where it may be used by normal traffic? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
use only; except during (variable) peak periods, when any vehicle may use them for regular driving. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] sloped_curb, kerb and god knows what left in limbo ......

2016-03-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
allows the use of: kerb=dropped alone. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] sloped_curb, kerb and god knows what left in limbo ......

2016-03-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
Today: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/sloped_kerb&diff=1279361&oldid=1215962 On 7 March 2016 at 19:48, Simon Poole wrote: > Recently I believe in this case was 2010 . > > Simon > > Am 07.03.2016 um 19:39 schrieb Andy Mabbett: >

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
ridiculous as trying to render them according to some arbitrary and subjective "importance" (Importance to whom? The people who live near them? Tourists? Mountaineers? Ornithologists? Aviators? Geologists? Climatologists? Oil prospectors?). -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing htt

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 March 2016 at 17:47, John Willis wrote: >> On Mar 19, 2016, at 9:18 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> It's nowhere near as ridiculous as trying to render them according to >> some arbitrary and subjective "importance" (Importance to whom? > > All

Re: [Tagging] AirBnB

2016-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
;m not convinced we should), we should list them all - and with a generic property. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
Tagging is highway=primary vs. > secondary, secondary vs. tertiary, tertiary vs. unclassified is often a > question of importance, not only width, paving and lane count. Tagging highways as "primary" or "secondary" is often a matter of verifiable legal designation. --

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
ry intransparent. Please explain what measure you are using, that is *more transparent*. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
to another country from Birmingham International railway station. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 25 March 2016 at 12:19, Alexander Matheisen wrote: > Am Freitag, den 25.03.2016, 11:26 + schrieb Andy Mabbett: >> On 20 March 2016 at 00:12, Alexander Matheisen >> wrote: >> >> > If you have a look at the highway=* tagging: This scheme is >> > subje

Re: [Tagging] intelligence services

2016-09-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
.org/wiki/Pierre-sur-Haute_military_radio_station#Controversy_over_French-language_version_of_Wikipedia_article -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mountaineer's mailbox

2016-09-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
ach the summit pick > the card in order to give it back to the owner (sending it via mail, for > example). This sounds very similar to geocaching. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Taggin

Re: [Tagging] Edit war at natural=cave_entrance ?

2016-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 13 September 2016 at 11:18, Richard wrote: > "Cadastre" is not an english word Really? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadastre https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cadastre -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk __

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
how many countries are currently tagged with their Wikidata ID? If not many, would people like a bot to add such tags? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstre

Re: [Tagging] A place where letters & parcels are sent to be sorted so they can be delivered?

2017-02-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
ag info Once they were. My local one is now, formally, known as "Great Barr Delivery Office". You can search for them by nearby postcodes, http://www.royalmail.com/delivery-and-collection-office-finder -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] Mapping time zones as geometries (relations)

2017-03-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
kidata. make sure that the admin boundaries are tagged with the relevant Wikidata ID. > I still think that the mapping of time zones as geometries > should be discouraged in OSM. I agree. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-04-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
is is apparently a case where OSM (or, at ealst, the OSM wiki) is in error. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-05-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 30 April 2017 at 09:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> On 30. Apr 2017, at 07:09, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> No. The arguments made by Martin against linking to Wikipedia (which >> are themselves weak) do not stand up at all for Wikidata > actually in wikidata thi

Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-05-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 1 May 2017 at 13:18, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > On 1. May 2017, at 12:37, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> Do not falsely conflate "complex" with "worse". You original complaint >> was, in effect, that there was a lack of complexity, now you complain >&

Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

2017-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
ther types. Maybe historic=railway_wagon ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

2017-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
ferred in all main varieties of English." http://grammarist.com/spelling/wagon-waggon/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

2017-05-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
years working at a railway museum in England, I would say brake vans are definitely "rolling stock" (as indeed is anything on wheels that moves on railway rails). Both en.Wikipedia's categories (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_van ) and Wikidata agree with that. -- And

Re: [Tagging] OSM+Wikidata intro video

2017-06-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 June 2017 at 21:02, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > This service is still looking for a proper home. If you have an extra 700GB > of space on a server, please PM. Perhaps the WMF toolserver? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.

[Tagging] Cyphers on postal boxes

2017-09-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
"royal" Should we change the tag to: cypher= or something else? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

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