[Tagging] ladders

2023-08-06 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
Hello all, in my endeavour to improve the mapping and tagging along waterways, I noticed that there is no approved or documented tag for ladders along shorelines. There is ladder=yes (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder), but it seems to be meant for hiking paths and is only rendered o

Re: [Tagging] ladders

2023-08-06 Thread bkil
Think about emergency doors, emergency steps and emergency paths leading to them all along motorways. Sounds a bit exhaustive to create a new emergency value for each one. An access restriction sounds more reasonable. On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 2:33 PM Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: > > Hello all, > > i

Re: [Tagging] Re: ladders

2023-08-06 Thread Anne- Karoline Distel
So ladder=emergency?There are a couple emergency=ladders mapped in Germany for rescuing people who've broken into an icy lake. With plural though.Anne--Sent from my Android phone with WEB.DE Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 06/08/2023, 13:40 bkil wrote: Think about emergency doors, emerge

[Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-06 Thread NickKatchur via Tagging
Hello, I have developed a proposal to indicate the availability of cell phone service at nodes and areas, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Cell_reception. There is currently no such usage of a tag or any related tags known. Please add any valuable discussion on the wiki discussion p

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-06 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
This isn't really appropriate data for OSM, sorry. On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, 3:21 PM NickKatchur via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Hello, > > > I have developed a proposal to indicate the availability of cell phone > service at nodes and areas, > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pro

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-06 Thread NickKatchur via Tagging
Care to give any reasoning? --- Original Message --- On Sunday, August 6th, 2023 at 4:24 PM, Brian M. Sperlongano - zelonewolf(a)gmail.com wrote: > This isn't really appropriate data for OSM, sorry. > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, 3:21 PM NickKatchur via Tagging > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-06 Thread Timothy Noname
I thinks it's definitely valuable to map areas where there is no coverage at all as it's a safety issue On Sun, 6 Aug 2023, 21:30 Brian M. Sperlongano, wrote: > This isn't really appropriate data for OSM, sorry. > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, 3:21 PM NickKatchur via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-06 Thread stevea
On Aug 6, 2023, at 1:35 PM, NickKatchur via Tagging wrote: > Care to give any reasoning? The carriers (at least in North America; Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile...) already publish these data. They are blocky, shitty, maybe slightly hazy or helpful, but OSM doesn't chase what "they" say (already).

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just commented on the Forum, but I'll repeat it here. There are too many things to take into account that may affect your coverage - different networks, different phones on the same network, how crowded any spot is at the time = how much demand, whether there may be a good spot up that hill etc S

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-06 Thread Evan Carroll
On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 4:22 PM Timothy Noname wrote: > I thinks it's definitely valuable to map areas where there is no coverage > at all as it's a safety issue > While I don't disagree, that's not an argument for OSM. OSM's job isn't to mitigate real world safety issues caused by technology. It

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-06 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:39 PM Evan Carroll wrote: > > > While I don't disagree, that's not an argument for OSM. OSM's job isn't to > mitigate real world safety issues caused by technology. It's to map > generally useful geographically verifiable things. > I don't understand how cell coverage isn

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-06 Thread Tod Fitch
The reception you get depends on your phone: Android and iPhone use different algorithms to determine bars from signal strength. Phones vary on which bands they support, antennas, RF processing, etc., depending on manufacturer and age. So cell phones are not very good for detecting how good a si

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-06 Thread Phake Nick
There's already services offered by companies like Opensignal to do this automatically through apps. And they record actual signal strength data that one cannot access by simply pulling their phones out. Also, signal strength as a value that vary continuously over space is like elevation or climate