Please revert this wiki change.
The kerb hight values have been used in at least one project documenting
wheelchair accessibility.
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020, 08:53 Supaplex, wrote:
> As an result of this diskussion (no strong opposition, some general
> remarks, some endorsement) I added "kerb=regular"
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 09:08, Volker Schmidt wrote:
>
> Please revert this wiki change.
> The kerb hight values have been used in at least one project documenting
> wheelchair accessibility.
I have reverted the edits now, please create a proposal for edits like this,
that
There was no change in the OSM database, so the project is not affected.
kerb=regular anyway is already in use but undocumented. Current
wheelchair/mobily projects should anyway consider this existing tagging.
As I described it needs clarity in the differentiation between raised
and regular kerbs a
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 09:39, Supaplex wrote:
>
> I felt that this list more agreed rather than opposed.
bring it to voting.
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While you're talking about the destination tag, I think when using a
destination_sign relation it's best to apply the mode as eg.
bicycle=designated, eg
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11345354#map=18/-33.82573/151.21308
for https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/VIq-OPTiw0BVI7gqdLR-iA
On Fri, 3
On 31.07.20 21:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
On 31. Jul 2020, at 18:01, Jan Michel wrote:
I'm not familiar with French rules, but is it the actual weight or the allowed
total weight of the vehicle that matters? If it's the latter, you can use
'weightrating' instead of 'weight'.
shouldn’t th
I wrote a proposal for it:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/kerb%3Dregular
How should I proceed - can I already set the status to "Proposed"? Do I
have to write a separate email for RFC or is this thread sufficient?
I hope for your comments - greets
Alex
Am 01.08.20 um 09:4
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 12:36, Supaplex wrote:
>
> I wrote a proposal for it:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/kerb%3Dregular
>
> How should I proceed - can I already set the status to "Proposed"? Do I have
> to write a separate email for RFC or is this
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 11:28, Jan Michel wrote:
>
> The access tag is 'maxweightrating' like 'maxweight' or 'maxheight'. In the
> value of conditional tags there is no 'max' because there we refer to actual
> values and not limits. We use 'weight', 'height' and hence also
>
On 01.08.20 15:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
On 1. Aug 2020, at 11:28, Jan Michel wrote:
The access tag is 'maxweightrating' like 'maxweight' or 'maxheight'. In the
value of conditional tags there is no 'max' because there we refer to actual
values and not limits. We use 'weight', 'height' an
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 15:27, Jan Michel wrote:
>
> General terminology point of view:
> As I understand it, the term 'rating' already refers to the allowed limit.
> Note that it's called 'gross weight rating', but not 'maximum gross weight
> rating'.
I guess the “gross” pa
On 8/1/2020 12:51 AM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
Similarly, if you ask someone the name of the road in California with
ref="CA 96",
they will tell you "Highway 96" or perhaps "The river road". They
won't say
"Nah, it doesn't have a name, just a State highway number."
So in that situation, how wou
Hm, it seems a smart way to manage such cases; I could add the restrictions on
the relation, like hazmat:water=no or maxweight=12. I assume that, in such
cases, I must create a destination_sign relation for unrestricted destinations,
and one for each destination restriction (if there are several
Hi,
On 01.08.20 15:48, David Marchal via Tagging wrote:
Hm, it seems a smart way to manage such cases; I could add the
restrictions on the relation, like hazmat:water=no or maxweight=12. I
assume that, in such cases, I must create a destination_sign relation
for unrestricted destinations, and
On 01.08.20 15:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
On 1. Aug 2020, at 15:27, Jan Michel wrote:
General terminology point of view:
As I understand it, the term 'rating' already refers to the allowed limit. Note
that it's called 'gross weight rating', but not 'maximum gross weight rating'.
I guess th
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 16:21, Jan Michel wrote:
>
>> which implies empty mass plus maximum mass of payload.
>
>
> No, "gross" refers to the German "Gesamt" as in "total weight of vehicle,
> driver and load". The precise translation of "gross weight" is
> "Bruttogewicht" or
On 01.08.20 16:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
No, "gross" refers to the German "Gesamt" as in "total weight of
vehicle, driver and load". The precise translation of "gross weight"
is "Bruttogewicht" or "Gesamtgewicht".
that’s what I said, maximum payload included
Sorry for not being more clea
To Jan Michel (I did not have your mail, as I unsubscribed of the list mails to
avoid cluttering my mailbox): the goal of my request is not to assist routing
software in finding a route, but to help navigation software to display the
destination signs as they are on the ground. If a destination
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 19:56, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 5:07 PM Alan Mackie wrote:
>
>> Many if not most of the entities mentioned in this discussion as being
>> candidates for "admin level above country" do have geographic reach
>> encompassing multiple countries, but are als
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 16:57, Jan Michel wrote:
>
> Sorry for not being more clear: There is no connotation of a "maximum" or
> "allowable limit" in neither the English nor the German term.
> "gross weight" or "Gesamtgewicht" is just the current total weight, without
> any st
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 07:21, Paul Norman via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> On 2020-07-31 8:21 a.m., Andy Townsend wrote:
>
> On 26/05/2020 00:20, Alan Mackie wrote:
>
> Has this edit war stabilised?
>
> Apparently it has been blocking coastline updates across the whole world
> for
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 12:19 AM Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> On 7/31/20 14:29, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > Name is only the name. Names are not refs. For the above example,
> > ref=NY 214, noname=yes would be the right way.
>
> How about the stretch of FM 1960 from I-45 or so going east into Humble?
> A
Yes, and no. It gets tricky. Look at the Thames, which is tidal up to
Teddington Lock, but you wouldn't really say that Richmond is "on the
coast" now would you? But for flood risk assessment it is in danger of
tidal/coastal flooding.
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020, 17:27 Alan Mackie, wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 1
On Friday 31 July 2020, Andy Townsend wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, neither extreme position looks the best answer
> to me - looking at the salinity change between river to ocean at
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0307904X07000716
> (see
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc
After some digging, it appears that Saint Regis Mohawk Indian Territory is
in OSM. Just across the border, on a Saint Lawrence River island, is the
Akwesasne 59 First Nations tribe is also in OSM. According to Wikipedia [1]
the Mohawk consider their territory to be a single nation, with no border
s
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 17:20, Alan Mackie wrote:
>
> I don't know how I'd map this. Do you have to pass through border checkpoints
> when you enter or leave the area?
around here, no, but neither are there border checkpoints at the border of the
main territory, you just wa
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:25 PM Clifford Snow
wrote:
> After some digging, it appears that Saint Regis Mohawk Indian Territory is
> in OSM. Just across the border, on a Saint Lawrence River island, is the
> Akwesasne 59 First Nations tribe is also in OSM. According to Wikipedia [1]
> the Mohawk co
Hey all,
As already mentioned on this list I intend to add the tag kerb=regular
to explicitly distinguish common standard height kerbs/curbs from
kerb=raised. Proposal, information and further discussion can be found
here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/kerb%3Dregular
For t
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 14:24, Clifford Snow wrote:
> What I find interesting is that the Canadian Border Crossing is located on
> the North side of the Saint Lawrence River while the US crossing station is
> located on the South side of the river. It seems to imply that the Akwesasne
> Nation is
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 12:27 PM Kevin Kenny wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:25 PM Clifford Snow
> wrote:
>
>> After some digging, it appears that Saint Regis Mohawk Indian Territory
>> is in OSM. Just across the border, on a Saint Lawrence River island, is the
>> Akwesasne 59 First Nations
Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active on
OSM contributing their cultural knowledge. What could we be doing different
in the future to welcome and engage them in our community?
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 12:28 PM Kevin Kenny wrote:
> Both the US and Canada consider t
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley wrote:
> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active on
> OSM contributing their cultural knowledge. What could we be doing different
> in the future to welcome and engage them in our community?
>
Outreach to tribal GIS offi
On 2020-08-01 9:26 a.m., Alan Mackie wrote:
Perhaps I am an overly literal follower of the wiki, but I had always
assumed the coastline should continue inland as far as the tide
continues to be noticeable. Mediterranean mapping might be an issue,
but elsewhere I think this is fairly clear?
St
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:28 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley wrote:
>
>>
>> So I think the current tagging makes sense. Though I wonder if places
>> like these qualify as disputed territory. After all, the US and Canada have
>> a nation-to-nation relationship
Hi everyone,
I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging approaches
of the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can have a service=?
associated tag. Having done, so I'm planning on resurrecting
https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues/808 to help people get
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley wrote:
>
>> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active
>> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge. What could we be doing
>> different in the future to welcome and e
On 31/7/20 12:42 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
In Indonesia, Costa Rica, Peru and Mexico, it is common to find 30cm
kerbs in older neighborhoods. In Nicaragua there were some that were
at least 45 cm high, in Leon or Granada.
Tropical countries with heavy rainfall often do this to avoid flooding
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:09 PM Kevin Kenny wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active
>>> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge.
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 12:22, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> The agreed upon tag for reservations is boundary=aboriginal_lands. It's
> used extensively in the US, Including the Mohawk Nation and across the
> Saint Lawrence River in Canada. We don't have consensus on how to tag off
> reservation land tru
On 8/1/2020 8:40 PM, David Dean wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging
approaches of the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can
have a service=? associated tag.
Hi David -- My feeling is that often highway=service, without a
service=* tag,
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 13:12, Tod Fitch wrote:
>
> Assuming that NPR is not geo-restricted to the US:
>
>
> https://www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-of-oklahoma-is-indian-land
>
Thanks, Tod!
Going to be interesting to see where this goes in the future.
Graeme
On 8/1/20 12:02, Paul Johnson wrote:
> For the way:
>
> name=Humble-Huffman Road
> ref=FM 1960
Oops. I got the name wrong, it's Humble Westfield Road, and it only
exists in OSM data because I haven't yet surveyed to be sure it's not
signed.
I'm pretty sure none of the current signs use this name
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Kevin Kenny wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active
>>> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 9:21 PM Clifford Snow
wrote:
> If you look at eastern Oklahoma, about 90%, Paul - correct me if I'm
> wrong, is boundary=aboriginal_lands. Tulsa is pretty much completely inside
> of two different reservations.
>
Three, actually. I live in the Muscogee Nation, now. Last
CW: Politics, rightfully being denied the world because where I live is an
idiot.
Clarification: I'm Cherokee, Choctaw and Scottish, and I'm barred from
entering Choctaw and Scottish territory due to COVID19, and even without
the pandemic, it's harder for me to travel now (seriously, violate anyth
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