Re: [Tagging] Replace the "DecoTurf" value

2020-06-13 Thread Warin
On 13/6/20 7:03 am, Steve Lee wrote: "DecoTurf" is not a common name, but a brand name. It  is also not a genericized trademark. We may need a broader term to classify surfaces. "Hardcourt" seems to be used exclusively for tennis courts, literally does not refer to a certain material. However,

Re: [Tagging] Replace the "DecoTurf" value

2020-06-13 Thread Jez Nicholson
My personal interest is in outdoor artificial soccer pitches, and to a user the surface classification is important to me (a 5G pitch is very different to a 2G), but I don't necessarily expect it to be rendered. In tennis, is there only one type of acrylic hardcourt, or are there variations? On

[Tagging] Replace the "DecoTurf" value

2020-06-13 Thread Steve Lee
I think the lack of proper classification in the wiki may be one of the reasons why these values are used so little. If the number of usage reaches a certain number, I think the renderer will also notice it. ITF's classification of tennis courts is Acrylic, Artificial clay, Artificial grass, Asphal

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - 3rd and 4th rail (Michael Reichert)

2020-06-13 Thread Garry Keenor
Paul - thanks for the response. I struggle with the idea that someone would know that a route is electrified with a ground level contact system, but not how many rails there are. The possible sources are a) local knowledge, b) wikipedia and c) aerial imagery. All of these will, 9 times out of 10, d

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - 3rd and 4th rail

2020-06-13 Thread Garry Keenor
"3rd rail" and "4th rail" are universally recognized terms. I am electrification engineer, and I have worked with other electrification engineers from various countries. Let's not confuse matters. :-) best regards, Garry On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 12:30, Peter Neale via Tagging < tagging@openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - 3rd and 4th rail

2020-06-13 Thread Garry Keenor
Colin, Thanks for your comments. I want to clear one very important thing up. The tag electrified=* is currently being used in OSM to define the *contact system* in use, not the power supply. All railway electrification systems require a sliding contact between train and infrastructure to transfe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - 3rd and 4th rail

2020-06-13 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-06-13 18:58, Garry Keenor wrote: > Colin, > > Thanks for your comments. > > I want to clear one very important thing up. The tag electrified=* is > currently being used in OSM to define the *contact system* in use, not the > power supply. All railway electrification systems require a

[Tagging] bicycle_parking=? for stands where handlebar is used to hold bicycle in position

2020-06-13 Thread Toggenburger Lukas
Hi all The kind of bicycle stand you can see in the attached picture is present every then and when in Switzerland and possibly in other parts of the world as well. How would you tag this? None of the values described at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bicycle_parking seem to fit well.

Re: [Tagging] bicycle_parking=? for stands where handlebar is used to hold bicycle in position

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
It probably needs a new value, maybe one not yet documented on that page. Looks like equivalent of bicycle_parking=ground_slots (0 security, but designated place to leave bicycle) but is something different. Jun 13, 2020, 20:52 by lukas.toggenbur...@fhgr.ch: > Hi all > > The kind of bicycle st

Re: [Tagging] bicycle_parking=? for stands where handlebar is used to hold bicycle in position

2020-06-13 Thread Hidde Wieringa
Hello, The wiki for bicycle_parking suggests that additional values may be used. When I look in the TagInfo for the key https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/bicycle_parking, then I find bicycle_parking=handlebar_holder which seems to fit your description/photo. See some example locations h

Re: [Tagging] bicycle_parking=? for stands where handlebar is used to hold bicycle in position

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Can you take your own photo of such bicycle parking and upload it to Wikimedia Commons ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page )? Given that it is a clearly distinct bicycle parking type it would be nice to add it to the list on Wiki. Jun 13, 2020, 21:56 by hi...@hiddewieringa.nl: > > H

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - 3rd and 4th rail (Michael Reichert)

2020-06-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> there are only 2 networks that I can identify worldwide that are 4th rail, and I've tagged them both already. If that's the case, is it worth tagging the distinction between 3rd and 4th rail systems? If so, perhaps only the rare 4th rail systems need a new tag, and we can keep electried=rail fo