Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. May 2020, at 04:03, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > That doesn't mean that each area needs to have it's own legal entity and > administrator, nor need to be able to set laws, rules, codes etc. just that > the boundary itself is used for some administrative purposes. Thi

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-05-14 04:02, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Agreed with Phake, any boundary that's used for administrative purposes could > be included, that's what I understand from > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative. That > doesn't mean that each area needs to have it's own l

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread Jo
On Wed, May 13, 2020, 17:44 Jmapb wrote: > On 5/13/2020 10:12 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > We've had relations for over a decade now, IIRC. It's time to stop > treating this basic primitive as entity-non-grata. If tools *still* can't > deal with this, this is on the tools and their developers

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:39, Colin Smale wrote: > In the UK there are multiple hierarchies of geographic areas, for widely > differing purposes, that frequently (but not always and not necessarily) > share borders. For example Police Regions are based on traditional counties > (which are not "a

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-05-14 11:49, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:39, Colin Smale wrote: > >> In the UK there are multiple hierarchies of geographic areas, for widely >> differing purposes, that frequently (but not always and not necessarily) >> share borders. For example Police Regions are b

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread Steve Doerr
On 14/05/2020 09:31, Jo wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2020, 17:44 Jmapb > wrote: Regarding the original question -- in what circumstances are single-member walking/hiking/biking route relations a good mapping practice -- what would be your answer? Always Doesn't

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread Jo
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:49 PM Steve Doerr wrote: > On 14/05/2020 09:31, Jo wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020, 17:44 Jmapb wrote: > >> Regarding the original question -- in what circumstances are >> single-member walking/hiking/biking route relations a good mapping practice >> -- what would

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 11:21, Colin Smale wrote: [Sub-divisions of health boards in Wales] > I am sure someone knows where the boundaries are. > Yes, But that doesn't mean they're making the information public. I had a brief look around Hywel Dda's site and couldn't find even a statement that

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 12:15 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 11:21, Colin Smale > wrote: > > [Sub-divisions of health boards in Wales] > > > I am sure someone knows where the boundaries are. > > Yes, But that doesn't mean they're making the information public. I > had a > br

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-05-14 13:15, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 11:21, Colin Smale wrote: > > [Sub-divisions of health boards in Wales] > >> I am sure someone knows where the boundaries are. > > Yes, But that doesn't mean they're making the information public. I had a > brief look around

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. May 2020, at 13:16, Paul Allen wrote: > > It makes it more difficult to the extent that a decision has to be made as to > whether we treat the NHS in the UK as a whole as admin level 1 or NHS Wales > as admin level 1. Or some other hierarchical arrangement. Or not

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 12:46, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2020-05-14 13:15, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 11:21, Colin Smale wrote: > > [Sub-divisions of health boards in Wales] > >> I am sure someone knows where the boundaries are. >> > > Yes, But that doesn't mean they're making th

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 12:58, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > On 14. May 2020, at 13:16, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > It makes it more difficult to the extent that a decision has to be made > as to > > whether we treat the NHS in the UK as a whole as admin level 1 or NHS > Wales > > as admin level 1

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. May 2020, at 12:49, Steve Doerr wrote: > > Doesn't that violate > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element ? it doesn’t. Any elements you like :) The tag defines what is an element, for example a route is something “on top” of a highway (

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:48 AM Steve Doerr wrote: > On 14/05/2020 09:31, Jo wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020, 17:44 Jmapb wrote: > >> Regarding the original question -- in what circumstances are >> single-member walking/hiking/biking route relations a good mapping practice >> -- what would b

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread Jmapb
On 5/14/2020 10:01 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:48 AM Steve Doerr mailto:doerr.step...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 14/05/2020 09:31, Jo wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2020, 17:44 Jmapb mailto:jm...@gmx.com>> wrote: Regarding the original question -- in what circumsta

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-05-14 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-05-14 14:07, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 12:58, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >>> On 14. May 2020, at 13:16, Paul Allen wrote: >>> >>> It makes it more difficult to the extent that a decision has to be made as >>> to >>> whether we treat the NHS in the UK as a whole

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
May 14, 2020, 16:40 by jm...@gmx.com: > On 5/14/2020 10:01 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:48AM Steve Doerr <>> >> doerr.step...@gmail.com>> >wrote: >> >>> On 14/05/2020 09:31, Jo wrote: >>> On Wed, May 13,

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread Jmapb
On 5/14/2020 12:07 PM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: May 14, 2020, 16:40 by jm...@gmx.com: On 5/14/2020 10:01 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:48 AM Steve Doerr mailto:doerr.step...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 14/05/2020 09:31, Jo wrote: On We

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
May 15, 2020, 01:36 by jm...@gmx.com: > On 5/14/2020 12:07 PM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> May 14, 2020, 16:40 by >> jm...@gmx.com>> : >> >>> On 5/14/2020 10:01 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:48 AMSteve Doerr < d

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread brad
On 5/14/20 5:53 PM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: May 15, 2020, 01:36 by jm...@gmx.com: On 5/14/2020 12:07 PM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: May 14, 2020, 16:40 by jm...@gmx.com : On 5/14/2020 10:01 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
May 15, 2020, 04:05 by bradha...@fastmail.com: > > > On 5/14/20 5:53 PM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> >> >> >> May 15, 2020, 01:36 by >> jm...@gmx.com>> : >> >>> On 5/14/2020 12:07 PM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: >>> May 14, 2020, 16:40 by jm...@gmx

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

2020-05-14 Thread s8evq
On Fri, 15 May 2020 01:53:37 +0200 (CEST), Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > Not sure is it the best place (someone again decided to go crazy with > templates), but > I made > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ATagging_scheme_for_hiking_and_foot_route_relations&type