Re: [Tagging] Additional detail of Levee mapping via embankments

2019-11-20 Thread John Willis via Tagging
Although they are constructed the same (pile of dirt), they are named and mapped differently. The man_made=levee tag exists, and I just want to extend it. Perhaps the man_made=embankment Can have a embankment=* to tag different types of berms and other man-made slopes, but in this case, the le

Re: [Tagging] How to tag earth walls in a shooting ramge

2019-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 19. Nov. 2019 um 22:11 Uhr schrieb Volker Schmidt : > Shooting ranges often have earth walls to separate the individual shooting > "booths". > I see three alternative tagging approaches, but none is satisfactory > 1) man_made=dyke (but the wiki says this is only for water) > 2) trace the f

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

2019-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 20. Nov. 2019 um 06:56 Uhr schrieb Jorge Aguirre < jorge.agui...@kaart.com>: > I had been out for the last few weeks and had left this proposal in > standby. I am back now and have revised and updated the original proposal > and included some images as examples, so hopefully it is all mor

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - footway=link

2019-11-20 Thread Markus
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 23:40, Allroads wrote: > > All waylines inside a area:highway=footway footway=sidewalk is a > highway=footway footway=sidewalk > When there is a connection to the road, inside the area:highway=footway, > footwalk=sidewalk is till the barrier=kerb. I'm unsure if this is a go

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - footway=link

2019-11-20 Thread Markus
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 04:24, Clifford Snow wrote: > > First off I like this proposal and agree that it be applied more broadly. > However there is a difference between a motorway=link (and similar) and a > footway=link. A motorway=link is a physical feature unlike a footway=link. A > footway=l

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - footway=link

2019-11-20 Thread Markus
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 23:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Markus > > Will this fix the "error" of "Footpaths are disconnected from other roads"? It may, but this really depends on the situation. Could you give me examples? ___ Tagging mailing list Ta

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - footway=link

2019-11-20 Thread Markus
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019, 04:43 Joseph Eisenberg, wrote: > > I'm skeptical about the need to tag this differently. > > If we do this, wouldn't we also need to tag differently a "T" > intersection of a `highway=residential` into a `highway=trunk`? > > Doing this for every intersection between a path and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - footway=link

2019-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 20. Nov. 2019 um 11:35 Uhr schrieb Markus : > On Tue, 19 Nov 2019, 04:43 Joseph Eisenberg, > wrote: > > Doing this for every intersection between a path and road, or lower > > classification road with a high classification road, would be a large > > amount of extra work for mappers, so it

Re: [Tagging] How to tag earth walls in a shooting ramge

2019-11-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 06:18, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: It looks like the original question is about man-made earth slopes, > That's how I interpreted the original question. however, and these are usually tagged man_made=embankment, with the > line at the top of the slope as previously mentioned.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 122, Issue 68, earth walls

2019-11-20 Thread St Niklaas
Hi you could tag them by surroundings and on top, with 2 circular ways tagged with man-made=embankment, be shure the short lines point up and down to eachother. Tats the way a slpe is determed in technical drwaings, the length and frequency of the lines is used to figure the decline, but since w

Re: [Tagging] How to tag earth walls in a shooting ramge

2019-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 20. Nov. 2019 um 14:12 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > Note also that, in civil engineering, retaining walls made of earth are a > thing. See > this video explaining mechanically stabilized earth walls: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0olpSN6_TCc > > these are retaining walls, the whole fil

Re: [Tagging] How to tag earth walls in a shooting ramge

2019-11-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 13:40, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Mi., 20. Nov. 2019 um 14:12 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen >: > >> Note also that, in civil engineering, retaining walls made of earth are a >> thing. See >> this video explaining mechanically stabilized earth walls: >> https://www.youtube.c

Re: [Tagging] How to tag earth walls in a shooting ramge

2019-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 20. Nov. 2019 um 14:51 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > Yes, they're retaining walls. But, since they're made of earth (often > visibly so), may be > naively mapped as embankments by some. A civil engineer may be able to > infer, from > the angle of repose, that they are reinforced but that is

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 122, Issue 70 reinforced shooting walls ?

2019-11-20 Thread St Niklaas
Hi I dont expect an embankment on a shooting range to be reinforced. The so called bullet-catcher is safely made out of sand or alike just to avoid swurling bullets at the end of the range, the sand allows the projectile to enter to wall and slowing it down. Another advantance is the recovering

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 122, Issue 70 reinforced shooting walls ?

2019-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 20. Nov. 2019 um 15:55 Uhr schrieb St Niklaas : > Hi I dont expect an embankment on a shooting range to be reinforced. The > so called bullet-catcher is safely made out of sand or alike just to avoid > swurling bullets at the end of the range, the sand allows the projectile to > enter to w

Re: [Tagging] How to tag earth walls in a shooting ramge

2019-11-20 Thread Marco Predicatori
Volker Schmidt wrote on 11/19/19 10:08 PM: > Shooting ranges often have earth walls to separate the individual shooting > "booths". ...and separate the inside from the outside. > I see three alternative tagging approaches, but none is satisfactory > 1) man_made=dyke (but the wiki says this is onl

Re: [Tagging] How to tag earth walls in a shooting ramge

2019-11-20 Thread Volker Schmidt
man-made=embankment on a way (line) is defined as the top of a *one-sided* slope. man_mde=embankment on a highway is not defined in the wiki, but it is in use to indicate that the highway is on top of a one-sided slope. My suspicion is that it is occasionally also used for the situation where the w

Re: [Tagging] How to tag earth walls in a shooting ramge

2019-11-20 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:11 AM Marco Predicatori wrote: > > Volker Schmidt wrote on 11/19/19 10:08 PM: > > Shooting ranges often have earth walls to separate the individual shooting > > "booths". > > ...and separate the inside from the outside. > > > I see three alternative tagging approaches, b

Re: [Tagging] Additional detail of Levee mapping via embankments

2019-11-20 Thread Richard
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 08:16:43AM +0900, John Willis via Tagging wrote: > On Nov 19, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Richard wrote: > > > > Other than that, "dyke_area" or "area:dyke" in analogy to > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:area:highway ? > > I think dykes/levees are made of inner and oute

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - footway=link

2019-11-20 Thread Markus
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 13:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > the issue with steps being represented too long is not related to the > proposal of adding a specific subtag. I generally map highway=steps only for > the (approximated) actual projection of the steps (first to last riser of > each st

Re: [Tagging] How to tag earth walls in a shooting ramge

2019-11-20 Thread Marco Predicatori
Kevin Kenny wrote on 11/20/19 5:36 PM: > It's neither an embankment (which is one-sided), nor a dike, which > holds back water. ('Dyke' in American usage means something else > entirely!) > > Do we perhaps need man_made=berm? I'm looking forward for anything more specific than embankment. Berm w

Re: [Tagging] How to tag earth walls in a shooting ramge

2019-11-20 Thread John Willis via Tagging
Not yet, but it is an option. Similar to bridge is man_made=bridge + whatever ways it has on it, my thinking is that the levee is the man_made=dyke way and then additional details of what it’s made out of. The earthen barriers are man-made, and are barriers, so some kind of barrier= tag is i