Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-07 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 06.11.19 à 19:55, Mark Wagner a écrit : > There are places like federal Wilderness Areas in the United States > where possession of a bicycle is forbidden can you share the a picture of this traffic sign ? Regards, Marc ___ Tagging mailing li

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 7. Nov. 2019 um 11:31 Uhr schrieb marc marc < marc_marc_...@hotmail.com>: > Hello, > > Le 06.11.19 à 19:55, Mark Wagner a écrit : > > There are places like federal Wilderness Areas in the United States > > where possession of a bicycle is forbidden > > can you share the a picture of this t

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

2019-11-07 Thread Dave F via Tagging
On 06/11/2019 18:04, Greg Troxel wrote: I think a shared driveway is still a driveway. This is the crux. The only distinguishing attribute from what we'd all tag as a driveway is that's it's shared. A driveway is designated as privately owned rather than by the local authority. It isn't defi

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-07 Thread Volker Schmidt
Ok, Steve. It's not a turnstile, but a kissing gate, and there is no Christchurch College Park, but the gate is behind Christchurch in Merton Field. But it is impossible to get through if you carry any large object (or if you are large yourself). Here it is on the map,

[Tagging] Traffic Signs (was: Re: Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?)

2019-11-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/11/2019 10:26, marc marc wrote: Hello, Le 06.11.19 à 19:55, Mark Wagner a écrit : There are places like federal Wilderness Areas in the United States where possession of a bicycle is forbidden can you share the a picture of this traffic sign ? As an aside, it's worth mentioning that the

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-07 Thread ael
On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 12:53:16PM +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Ok, Steve. It's not a turnstile, but a kissing gate, and there is no > Christchurch College Park, but the gate is behind Christchurch in Merton > Field. > But it is impossible to get through if you carry any large object (or if > you

Re: [Tagging] Traffic Signs "pushing bicycle not allowed here"

2019-11-07 Thread marc marc
Le 07.11.19 à 14:01, Andy Townsend a écrit : > you won't see a unique sign that identifies "you can't cycle here" an good pratice rule is "don't map the legislation", isn't it ?? no sign ? thus no tag on the way at most a default value in the wiki or on the boundary. __

Re: [Tagging] Traffic Signs "pushing bicycle not allowed here"

2019-11-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/11/2019 13:39, marc marc wrote: Le 07.11.19 à 14:01, Andy Townsend a écrit : you won't see a unique sign that identifies "you can't cycle here" an good practice rule is "don't map the legislation", isn't it ?? If you can infer defaults from legislation, sure, but as has previously been

[Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Dave F via Tagging writes: > On 06/11/2019 18:04, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> I think a shared driveway is still a driveway. > > This is the crux. The only distinguishing attribute from what we'd all > tag as a driveway is that's it's shared. > A driveway is designated as privately owned rather than

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-07 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 11/6/2019 3:08 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: bicycle_pushed=no? bicycle_pushed is more clear for someone encountering it for the first time - bicycle=total_ban is a bit confusing Especially as in some places access for bicycles may be "never" (explicit "no bicycle" signs) or "only during extr

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-07 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 10:26:14 + marc marc wrote: > Hello, > > Le 06.11.19 à 19:55, Mark Wagner a écrit : > > There are places like federal Wilderness Areas in the United States > > where possession of a bicycle is forbidden > > can you share the a picture of this traffic sign ? > It's a s

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/7/19 18:19, Greg Troxel wrote: > My point is that we have a lot of mappers and a set of norms (which are > pretty fuzzy and/or a bit contradictory). We have rules about > mechanical edits (including imports), since they change things in a > large-scale systematic way. Yes. If you are a

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-07 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 11/7/2019 2:09 PM, Mark Wagner wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 10:26:14 + marc marc wrote: ere possession of a bicycle is forbidden can you share the a picture of this traffic sign ? It's a sign for a state natural area rather than a federal wilderness area, and the situation is a little fu

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 03:21, Greg Troxel wrote: > I am not aware of them publishing their guidelines; perhaps someone in > Amazon management will > speak up in this thread and point to where that is published. > Or possibly someone from the DWG (?) could contact them? Thanks Graeme ___

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Clifford Snow
Every time I've contacted one of the Amazon's team, they have responded and taken responsibility to update their edits. We should first try to contact them before going through DWG. This thread shows the number of opinions on how to map service roads. BTW my driveway is a shared driveway. I've map

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 07:34, Clifford Snow wrote: > Every time I've contacted one of the Amazon's team, they have responded > and taken responsibility to update their edits. We should first try to > contact them before going through DWG. > I certainly didn't mean to come on heavy, just a friendl

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jmapb wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something here but I don't see any reason why > data consumers, including the bicycle modes of routing engines, > should ever interpret bicycle=no in a way that permits walking > bicycles. This is exactly why we have a bicycle=dismount tag. Because mapping is im

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Nov 2019, at 23:00, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On the subject of mapping driveways - do people only map up to the front > fence (especially in suburban areas), or all the way to the garage / house ie > everything visible on aerial imagery? I’m doing it occasion

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On the subject of mapping driveways - do people only map up to the front > fence (especially in suburban areas), or all the way to the garage / house > ie everything visible on aerial imagery? > > I map to the garage to or in the case of

[Tagging] Changeset 62867521

2019-11-07 Thread Mike Thompson
Hello, User dvdhns are having a friendly discussion regarding this changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62867521#map=16/40.3021/-105.6436 They have some good reasons for adding "(off trail)" to the end of the name to the "Fire Trail", but I don't think they override the rule that we

Re: [Tagging] Changeset 62867521

2019-11-07 Thread Andrew Harvey
I just added my thoughts to the changeset comment. I agree that name should be the proper name only and all other information can go in other tags or the description field. Generally an "official" (I use the term loosely) trail will be signposted and potentially part of a hiking route, and an "inf

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Warin
On 08/11/19 08:58, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 07:34, Clifford Snow > wrote: Every time I've contacted one of the Amazon's team, they have responded and taken responsibility to update their edits. We should first try to contact t

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-07 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 16:13:49 -0500 Jmapb via Tagging wrote: > On 11/7/2019 2:09 PM, Mark Wagner wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 10:26:14 + > > marc marc wrote: > > > >> ere possession of a bicycle is forbidden > >> can you share the a picture of this traffic sign ? > >> > > It's a sign for