Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
This is what you are looking for, it has been used 160 times: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddevice_charging_station Although, I'd probably just unify this with amenity=charging_station and always specify the socket type and voltage. You should only navigate to a charging statio

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
I've found this Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorepower There is no shore power tag in OSM yet. But now I'm uncertain if we should also make a difference between shore power and power supply for other uses. Am Fr., Juni 21, 2019 at 14:21 schrieb Michael Brandtner via Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
We should probably list the OSM Forum as well then. OSM Help also uses your OSM credentials. OSM IRC channels do not need credentials - a random alias is sufficient. The OSMF link seems to be more about donations than giving a hand. I'd funnel using these two categories: Primary: * OSM Help * OS

Re: [Tagging] paid ferry - fee or toll tag

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
If we step back a bit from our dictionaries, fee=* as a concept is isomorphic to toll=* (and fare) in this context. As all of them could be understood by native speakers and fee=* covers a more general category, it is clearly the better choice. If we consider our data users, non-native speakers and

Re: [Tagging] About the diaper key

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
👍 On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 4:48 AM Satoshi IIDA wrote: > > As my small contribution, switched to changing_table in a baby care > proposal page~ > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/babycare > > > > 2019年6月17日(月) 5:44 Rory : > >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:14:59 +0200, Va

Re: [Tagging] paid ferry - fee or toll tag

2019-06-22 Thread Warin
On 22/06/19 18:38, bkil wrote: If we step back a bit from our dictionaries, fee=* as a concept is isomorphic to toll=* (and fare) in this context. As all of them could be understood by native speakers and fee=* covers a more general category, it is clearly the better choice. If we consider our da

Re: [Tagging] paid ferry - fee or toll tag

2019-06-22 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-22 10:38, bkil wrote: > If we step back a bit from our dictionaries, fee=* as a concept is > isomorphic to toll=* (and fare) in this context. Only insofar as they indicate that the user has to pay. "Toll" has a distinct meaning, in the UK at least, that it is (and needs to be) sanction

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-22 10:20, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: > I've found this Wikipedia page: > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorepower > > There is no shore power tag in OSM yet. But now I'm uncertain if we should > also make a difference between shore power and power supply for other use

Re: [Tagging] paid ferry - fee or toll tag

2019-06-22 Thread Tobias Zwick
Colin Smale, this is a very wise thing to say. I think this is often a missing element in tagging discussions. Is there a tagging suggestion guidelines page on the wiki? If yes, this is definitely one point that should be added. And if not, maybe we (people on the mailing list) should create o

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 01:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Wow, what a nightmare! > Yep. New tag needed: nightmare=*. Here, if a camping ground / caravan park has power to a site, it will be a > standard layout Oz plug, but rated at 15A, not 10, so you will need a 15A > lead to connect to it, b

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 02:28, marc marc wrote: socket key is probably the most successful but for charging stations, > the information is missing if it is a plug or a plug at the end of a > cable on the terminal side. > Terminology gets messy. Different parts of the world and different industri

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
Thank you for your comments so far. I've now written a proposal. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/amenity%3Dpower_supply The definition (wording can surely be improved):" A place where you can get electrical power." I've not taken into account your discussion about different s

Re: [Tagging] paid ferry - fee or toll tag

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
My answer reflected on Paul's suggestion of introducing yet another term (fare=*) to more closely match common vocabulary. I wouldn't recommend merging tolls, sorry if you read it like that. On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 11:10 AM Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-06-22 10:38, bkil wrote: > > If we step bac

Re: [Tagging] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-22 Thread marc marc
Le 22.06.19 à 10:31, bkil a écrit : > I wonder why nobody has created a gateway > to merge all discussions nabble.com/ do the job (but you can only merge ml/forum only ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/li

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Warin
On 22/06/19 19:16, Colin Smale wrote: On 2019-06-22 10:20, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: I've found this Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorepower There is no shore power tag in OSM yet. But now I'm uncertain if we should also make a difference between shore power and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Warin
On 23/06/19 01:39, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: Thank you for your comments so far. I've now written a proposal. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/amenity%3Dpower_supply The definition (wording can surely be improved): " A place where you can get electrical power.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
I didn't really want to include device charging into this, but it seems that my tag is too generic to prevent that. Maybe I should stop trying to combine the power supplies at camping grounds and marinas and instead go with amenity=shorepower?  Am So., Juni 23, 2019 at 3:44 schrieb Warin<61

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 15:40, Michael Brandtner via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I didn't really want to include device charging into this, but it seems > that my tag is too generic to prevent that. Maybe I should stop trying to > combine the power supplies at camping grounds and