Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-21 Thread Andreas Lattmann
So, how should I tag these pathways for the disabled? -- I❤️ Software Libero. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
Hi, I'm thinking about (and in fact, have already used about two times) a new tag: amenity=power_supply. It is meant for mapping places where you can get electrical power for a fee. They can be found at camping grounds and harbours. They have sockets you can use to get power and you can pay with

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Anton Klim
I am surprised this is not something that exists already (or is it?) Wouldn't limit it to caravans though, would be equally useful for those looking to charge electronics or power a tool of some sort. Or is that power_supply? Ant пт, 21 июн. 2019 г. в 15:22, Michael Brandtner via Tagging < taggin

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:33 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: > I am surprised this is not something that exists already (or is > it?)Wouldn't limit it to caravans though, would be equally useful for > those looking to charge electronics or power a tool of some sort. > Or is that power_supply? > Certainly

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.06.2019 um 14:18 schrieb Michael Brandtner via Tagging > : > > I'm thinking about (and in fact, have already used about two times) a new > tag: amenity=power_supply. It is meant for mapping places where you can get > electrical power for a fee. They can be found at

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Anton Klim
Guess it could be the same as fuel stations/hotels etc with extra amenities: high-level tagging on the whole campsite pitch with a sub tag, or nodes on actual power sockets for more detail. пт, 21 июн. 2019 г. в 15:46, Philip Barnes : > On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:33 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: > > I

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 16:07 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: > Guess it could be the same as fuel stations/hotels etc with extra > amenities: high-level tagging on the whole campsite pitch with a sub > tag, or nodes on actual power sockets for more detail. The position is useful information, you may need

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.06.2019 um 13:28 schrieb Andreas Lattmann : > > So, how should I tag these pathways for the disabled? reread the contributions to this thread and take a decision ;-) Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openst

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Jan S
Am 21. Juni 2019 15:25:06 MESZ schrieb Philip Barnes : >On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 16:07 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: >> Guess it could be the same as fuel stations/hotels etc with extra >> amenities: high-level tagging on the whole campsite pitch with a sub >> tag, or nodes on actual power sockets for mo

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:49 +0200, Jan S wrote: > > Am 21. Juni 2019 15:25:06 MESZ schrieb Philip Barnes < > p...@trigpoint.me.uk>: > > On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 16:07 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: > > > Guess it could be the same as fuel stations/hotels etc with extra > > > amenities: high-level tagging o

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
The sub-tag does already exist, I've linked to it in my original post (power_supply=). What doesn't exist is a main tag for tagging isolated columns for power supply. This image shows what I'm talking about: https://www.alamy.de/outdoor-steckdosen-mit-sicherheitsschalter-auf-blau-metall-pol-fu

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Jan S
Am 21. Juni 2019 16:29:02 MESZ schrieb Michael Brandtner via Tagging : >The sub-tag does already exist, I've linked to it in my original post >(power_supply=). What doesn't exist is a main tag for tagging isolated >columns for power supply. >This image shows what I'm talking about: >https://www.

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 21. Juni 2019 um 17:09 Uhr schrieb Jan S : > > > If these sockets are typically located at caravan parking spots in > campgrounds, wouldn't it be sufficient to add a sub-tag to the proposed tag > tourism=camp_pitch? Btw, voting for that tag is underway until 28 June > here: > https://wiki.

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-21 14:18, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: > I'm thinking about (and in fact, have already used about two times) a new > tag: _amenity=power_supply_. It is meant for mapping places where you can get > electrical power for a fee. They can be found at camping grounds and > harbours

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-21 18:14, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Fr., 21. Juni 2019 um 18:06 Uhr schrieb Colin Smale > : > >> When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard >> such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not >> for the plug; some comb

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 17:06, Colin Smale wrote: > When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard > such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not > for the plug; some combinations have a measure of cross-compatibility, and > you don't want

Re: [Tagging] kerb regulations: moving towards a tagging schema?

2019-06-21 Thread Emily Eros
Hi Graeme, Good question. So cities generally post what is restricted, rather than what is explicitly allowed. For example, a "paid parking" rule is there to tell you that you *can't* park unless you pay, and a "parking 2-4pm" zone is there to tell you that you *can't* park outside of those hours.

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 21. Juni 2019 um 18:06 Uhr schrieb Colin Smale < colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>: > When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard > such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not > for the plug; some combinations have a measure of cross-compa

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Friday, 21 June 2019, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-06-21 14:18, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: > > > I'm thinking about (and in fact, have already used about two times) a new > > tag: _amenity=power_supply_. It is meant for mapping places where you can > > get electrical power for a fee

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-21 18:33, Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 17:06, Colin Smale wrote: > >> When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard >> such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not >> for the plug; some combinations have a mea

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-21 19:57, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-06-21 18:33, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 17:06, Colin Smale wrote: > > When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard > such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not >

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 19:00, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-06-21 18:33, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 17:06, Colin Smale wrote: > >> When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard >> such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket,

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Le ven. 21 juin 2019 à 16:18, Philip Barnes a écrit : > On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:49 +0200, Jan S wrote: > > Would such a tag fit for e-car charging stations, too, or can we > > already tag those? These charging stations basically provide > > electricity for money, too, don't they? > We alread

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Valor Naram via Tagging
> Looks good to me, except that the tag name should really be something like "power_supply:socket_type" rather than the over-generic "power_supply".+1___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread François Lacombe
Le ven. 21 juin 2019 à 20:44, Colin Smale a écrit : > > There is also this tagging scheme for the same thing: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:socket > > Now how did that happen??? > It's more fun to use socket=* than power_supply:socket_type=* since the only important word is "so

Re: [Tagging] kerb regulations: moving towards a tagging schema?

2019-06-21 Thread Peter Elderson
I am impressed by the high quality of this project. I think it could surely be done in or with OSM. One question though: it seems to me it only works if permanent quality control and quality assurance is in place. OSM is not known for its reliability in that respect, you simply cannot guarantee tha

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 19:44, Colin Smale wrote: > There is also this tagging scheme for the same thing: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:socket Now how did that happen??? It arose via a different route, supporting amenity=charging_station. We probably need to harmonize the na

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-21 21:15, François Lacombe wrote: > Le ven. 21 juin 2019 à 20:44, Colin Smale a écrit : > >> There is also this tagging scheme for the same thing: >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:socket >> Now how did that happen??? > It's more fun to use socket=* than power_supp

Re: [Tagging] kerb regulations: moving towards a tagging schema?

2019-06-21 Thread Emily Eros
That's a great point. I agree, and it relates to big questions for OSM in general regarding quality assurance and OSM's relationship to authoritative data sources. Parking restrictions have law enforcement implications so a city government or other agency has to maintain its own authoritative data

Re: [Tagging] kerb regulations: moving towards a tagging schema?

2019-06-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 21.06.19 04:38, Emily Eros wrote: > I'd love to hear from people about what they think about this as a > general approach. It is rare to see a suggestion from someone who is new to the game that is so well thought out. I am impressed that you did not, like so many others who want to scra

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Joseph Eisenberg writes: > This requirement is fine for Europe, but the presence of lane markings > is not reliable in all of the world. > > In developing countries, such as here in Indonesia, the presence of > painted lane markings is inconsistent. Often cheap pain is used > instead of more dura

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 04:53, Paul Allen wrote: > Having power_supply=yes indicates that the socket type is unknown, > But wouldn't that default as the country you're in? If you're in Britain, it's a British socket, so you need a "British" plug (or an International adaptor!) to plug in, in Austr

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 23:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 04:53, Paul Allen wrote: > >> Having power_supply=yes indicates that the socket type is unknown, >> > > But wouldn't that default as the country you're in? If you're in Britain, > it's a British socket, so you nee

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Wow, what a nightmare! Here, if a camping ground / caravan park has power to a site, it will be a standard layout Oz plug, but rated at 15A, not 10, so you will need a 15A lead to connect to it, but that's it! Thanks Graeme On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 10:27, Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 201

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I agree that amenity=power_supply is useful for features that provide free or paid access to an electrical outlet. Another place where this would be useful is in airports and train stations, where the waiting areas often have specific locations to charge electronic devices. There might be some co

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread marc marc
> waiting areas often have specific locations > to charge electronic devices. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aamenity%3Ddevice_charging_station > amenity=charging_station <> amenity=power_supply some normal electrical outlets allow cars to be charged and some charging terminals use

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Feature Name)

2019-06-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> From my view, > healthcare leads to use different kind of items, taking examples: > > healthcare=clinic is a type of healthcare facility, and > healthcare=dentist is for me, a type of speciality. The tag amenity=clinic (and the alternative but much less used healthcare=clinic) defines a feature

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Warin
On 22/06/19 11:24, marc marc wrote: waiting areas often have specific locations to charge electronic devices. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aamenity%3Ddevice_charging_station > amenity=charging_station <> amenity=power_supply some normal electrical outlets allow cars to be charge

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
It seems that for paths itself current wheelchair tags are sufficient. For relations it would be nice to distinguish routes specifically for people on wheelchairs and ones marked as passable by people on wheelchairs. 21 Jun 2019, 13:28 by andrea.lattm...@ga-2.it: > So, how should I tag these pa