Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 13. Jun 2019, at 04:59, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There are a few uses of lanes=0... I would think these are errors. Even if > unmarked a road would have at least one lane otherwise it is not really a > road. according to the current definition requirin

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=farmyard vs residential

2019-06-13 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 02:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Usually they won't be used for residential purposes .. unless they have > been demolished. > Around here a LOT of farms have converted at least one outbuilding to a holiday cottage. Most are still working farms. In some cases

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread Warin
On 13/06/19 17:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 13. Jun 2019, at 04:59, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: There are a few uses of lanes=0... I would think these are errors. Even if unmarked a road would have at least one lane otherwise it is not really a road. accordi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 117, Issue 36

2019-06-13 Thread Leif Rasmussen
> > Personally I would prefer a more inclusive definition which requires for > lanes to be recognizable, which could be either through lane markings or > through traffic observation (if the vehicles drive in two lanes it is a > 2-lane road also in absence of road markings). > > Cheers, Martin >

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread Tobias Zwick
> Here, legally, if there are no lane makings then it is considered to have one > lane in either direction. I am kind of a fan of lanes=0, denoting that there are no marked lanes. Here is why: a. if a road with no lane marking is tagged as lanes=2, this situation cannot be distinguished from a

Re: [Tagging] About the diaper key

2019-06-13 Thread Jo
At some point diapers need to be changed... Polyglot On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 6:44 PM Valor Naram wrote: > Oh thanks. Corrected it > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:changing_table and I also > notified all downstream users that this feature replaces Key:diaper > > On Wed, 2019-06-12 at 1

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread Warin
On 13/06/19 18:41, Tobias Zwick wrote: Here, legally, if there are no lane makings then it is considered to have one lane in either direction. I am kind of a fan of lanes=0, denoting that there are no marked lanes. Here is why: a. if a road with no lane marking is tagged as lanes=2, this situ

[Tagging] Tunnel rock fall protector

2019-06-13 Thread Nuno Caldeira
I noticed after checking these photos that i should add those tunnels to OSM. https://www.dnoticias.pt/madeira/obra-brutal-pronta-antes-das-eleicoes-XL4872088 https://funchalnoticias.net/2019/06/07/veja-como-esta-a-ficar-o-falso-tunel-da-pestana-junior-arquiteto-paulo-david-colaborou-na-solucao-e

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread ael via Tagging
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 08:09:26PM +1000, Warin wrote: > On 13/06/19 18:41, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > I think a tag to say "lane:marking=no" could be better for that situation??? > > lanes=* says the number of lanes, it does not say if they are marked or > unmarked as demonstrated above. +1 It h

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 5:10 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Now, my argumentation is in favour of making a distinction between > unmarked and marked but not explicitly for lanes=0. I wouldn't mind or even > slightly favor a tag like nolanes=yes or similar - this would be even more >

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread Tobias Zwick
> I think a tag to say "lane:marking=no" could be better for that situation??? 1. or lanes:marked=no? (mark_ed_ instead of mark_ing_) Would be (more) consistent with the naming of opening_hours:signed, collection_times:signed, (1k-2k usages each) 2. or nolanes=yes? Would be consistent with non

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread Allroads
A carriageway can have lanes or not. A lane is a part of a carriageway with visual markings. In Dutch law we have. rijbaan = roadway = fahrbahn and with visual marking, we have rijstrook = lane = fahrstreifen If there are no visual markings, there are no rijstroken / fahrstreifen / lanes. A tw

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread Nita Rae Sanders
lanes, at least around here, can be nebulous and variable. Most hardtop/asphalt roads are 2-lanes (1 in each direction). Graded limerock roads are unmarked in any way, and usually capable of two vehicle squeezing past one another, except on a day like today. There is so much accumulated water that

Re: [Tagging] Mismatched tag status

2019-06-13 Thread marc marc
Le 11.06.19 à 01:19, Yuri Astrakhan a écrit : > There is currently 267 key & tags on OSM wiki with mismatching STATUS > field, as seen in http://tinyurl.com/y62j5m5e I have fixed some of them in the key page but items doesn't have a auto-update :) so it's hard to follow the status with the query.

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-13 Thread marc marc
Le 11.06.19 à 22:06, Violaine_Do a écrit : > boundary=refugee see > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Refugee_Camp_Boundaries I agree with a boundary= because boundary=administrative is wrong when it'sn't a administrative boundary but it's the same issue with admin_level, u

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2019-06-13 at 12:46 +0100, ael via Tagging wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 08:09:26PM +1000, Warin wrote: > > On 13/06/19 18:41, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > > > I think a tag to say "lane:marking=no" could be better for that > > situation??? > > > > lanes=* says the number of lanes, it does

Re: [Tagging] Mismatched tag status

2019-06-13 Thread marc marc
Le 11.06.19 à 09:31, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : >> On 11. Jun 2019, at 01:41, Paul Allen wrote: >> >> I'd be inclined to leave "in use" as a German synonym for "de facto" unless >> people who have German as a first language say that "de facto" would be >> acceptable. > maybe there are nuances

Re: [Tagging] Tunnel rock fall protector

2019-06-13 Thread John Willis via Tagging
AFAIK, these are functionally similar to avalanche protection tunnels. Most of the "open" sided tunnels I see in Japan are dual purpose - if it's steep enough for an avalanche, it's steep enough for rocks falling on cars to be an issue. I would use the avalanche protection tag, as it properly d

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=farmyard vs residential

2019-06-13 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Jun 13, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > > Conversion of farm buildings to residential buildings is not only possible, > it's frequent in > some parts of the world. Very true, but even a house or cottage inside a working farmyard would still be on a landuse mapped as a farmyard. Th

Re: [Tagging] Tunnel rock fall protector

2019-06-13 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just had a look & the wiki does actually say " Their purpose is to protect the highway or railway from avalanches and landslides" so that will be fine. Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/list