Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

2019-02-11 Thread Ture Pålsson
2019-02-09 15:23 skrev Tom Pfeifer: If a renderer wants to cluster any trees that can be done algorithmically. As someone who tries to render smallish-scale (typcally 1:25000 or 1:5) maps from OSM data, I am always slightly annoyed when someone states that something does not need to be m

[Tagging] Co-ordinate sets vs. background informations = ODbL vs. CC

2019-02-11 Thread Ulrich Lamm
Am 08.02.2019 um 20:37 schrieb Ulrich Lamm: > OSM is already used like a quallity product. > We have to provide that quality, now, or we have to warn people that they > should not use OSM until ten years later. > > If / As official databases provide their contents under Creative Commons > licen

Re: [Tagging] Co-ordinate sets vs. background informations = ODbL vs. CC

2019-02-11 Thread marc marc
Le 11.02.19 à 13:46, Ulrich Lamm a écrit : > exploit this free collection (and the unpaid work of thousands of > volunteers) for commercial use. that's not a osm issue (osm have decided that's commercial use is allowed) and even less a problem for tagging where we discuss the most appropriate s

Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

2019-02-11 Thread Tomas Straupis
2019-02-11, pr, 11:29 Ture Pålsson rašė: > As someone who tries to render smallish-scale (typcally 1:25000 or > 1:5) maps from OSM data, I am always slightly annoyed when someone > states that something does not need to be mapped bacuse it can be > inferred algorithmically from other data, with

Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

2019-02-11 Thread Ture Pålsson
2019-02-11 14:55 skrev Tomas Straupis: 2019-02-11, pr, 11:29 Ture Pålsson rašė: [ ... ] 2. If (1) is true in other countries, maybe "tree_row" should be an attribute of a road/railroad? Say highway=residential+tree_row=left|right|both. This way it would be much more convenient to create cart

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-11 Thread Hufkratzer
On 10.02.2019 14:57, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: [...} *Variant #2* Combine "ditch" and "drain" tags into one. [...} Personally I lean toward variant 2 [...} This would require to deprecate "drain" and remove it from the presets, otherwise we will continue to have 2 tags in the long run. As far

Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

2019-02-11 Thread Tomas Straupis
2019-02-11, pr, 16:26 Ture Pålsson rašė: > That possiblity already exists, as tree_lined=*. However, I believe tree > rows sometimes appear on their own. For example, the tree row in this > picture (which was in the side bar of the Wiki for natural=tree_row) > looks like it is not lining anything i

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-11 Thread Eugene Podshivalov
пн, 11 февр. 2019 г. в 19:19, Hufkratzer : > This would require to deprecate "drain" and remove it from the presets, > otherwise we will continue to have 2 tags in the long run. As far as I > know deprecating a tag is only possible if it's usage declines. Currently > its usage increases steadily.

Re: [Tagging] man_made=storage_tank for open containers?

2019-02-11 Thread Markus
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 23:28, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 11/02/19 07:31, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > I would have imagined a man_made=storage_tank to be a closed container, and > > would rather invent tags for open containers like man_made=slurry_pit, > > Too specific. [...]

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables Proposal RFC

2019-02-11 Thread Tijmen Stam
On 31-10-18 00:54, Leif Rasmussen wrote: Hello everyone! I recently wrote up a proposal page for public transport schedule data. This information would allow OpenStreetMap to store information about when or how often certain buses or trains arrive at a platform. https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Pro

Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

2019-02-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 00:26, Ture Pålsson wrote: > However, I believe tree rows sometimes appear on their own. For example, > the tree row in this > picture (which was in the side bar of the Wiki for natural=tree_row) looks > like it is not lining anything in particular: > Yep, you see similar

Re: [Tagging] man_made=storage_tank for open containers?

2019-02-11 Thread Markus
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 23:48, marc marc wrote: > > instead of creating a main tag value for each variety, > I am as often in favor of dividing things into categories. > if you are in front of a tank, man_made=tank > after, you can add (sub)tags describing : > - if a cover/roof exist or not > - if

Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

2019-02-11 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 20:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Yep, you see similar rows quite frequently that have been planted like > that, usually to form a wind break. > So they're not by the side of a road and they're not ornamental. That means that, although they are trees and arranged in a

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC - Power and pipeline substations functions

2019-02-11 Thread François Lacombe
HI all The power and pipeline substations functions proposal is under RFC since early January. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Substation_functions Received comments on Talk page allow a few important improvements, here you go for a concrete benefits summary https://wiki.ope

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables Proposal RFC

2019-02-11 Thread Jo
The proposal was voted upon. On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:54 PM Tijmen Stam wrote: > On 31-10-18 00:54, Leif Rasmussen wrote: > > Hello everyone! > > I recently wrote up a proposal page for public transport schedule data. > > This information would allow OpenStreetMap to store information about > >

Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

2019-02-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 07:28, Paul Allen wrote: > Or very tall grass. > All we need is Warin's lawn mower ^ - that'll fix 'em! :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Co-ordinate sets vs. background informations = ODbL vs. CC

2019-02-11 Thread Warin
On 11/02/19 23:46, Ulrich Lamm wrote: Am 08.02.2019 um 20:37 schrieb Ulrich Lamm: OSM is already used like a quallity product. We have to provide that quality, now, or we have to warn people that they should not use OSM until ten years later. If / As official databases provide their contents

Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

2019-02-11 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 15:55:50 +0200 Tomas Straupis wrote: > Two things to add: > 1. At least in Lithuania cartographic (topographic) "tree row" is > defined as "a row of trees groing alongside a road or railway". That > is random trees somewhere in a field do not become a "tree row" even > if

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables Proposal RFC

2019-02-11 Thread Phake Nick
Wasn't that only for the currently abandoned parts? 在 2019年2月12日週二 05:52,Jo 寫道: > The proposal was voted upon. > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:54 PM Tijmen Stam wrote: > >> On 31-10-18 00:54, Leif Rasmussen wrote: >> > Hello everyone! >> > I recently wrote up a proposal page for public transport