Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Markus
Ciao Sergio, On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 23:46, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > My only marginal objection is for canal: why don't you ditch (pun > intended...) the "used to carry useful water for transportation, hydro-power > generation, irrigation or land drainage purposes" clause? > > Are there any other

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Markus
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 02:51, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It appears in the descriptions that a 'ditch' can be used as a 'drain'. So > why have a tag 'drain'? I wouldn't oppose. > The only differences I have between canal and the other things is large verse > small and usefull quant

Re: [Tagging] Clarification of fire_hydrant:diameter

2019-02-01 Thread Marc Gemis
Hi Viking, here is one for Belgium. It's on my photo website and I release it hereby in Public Domain, feel free to download it and upload it to the wiki. https://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2017/2017-01-01-Dikkelvenne/i-5MQMcZ3/A On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:27 PM Viking wrote: > > I've fixed fire_hy

[Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=isthmus

2019-02-01 Thread Markus
Hello everyone, I'm proposing the tag natural=isthmus for mapping named isthmuses. An isthmus is a narrow strip of land, bordered by water on both sides and connecting two larger land masses. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:natural%3Disthmus Regards Markus ___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

2019-02-01 Thread Markus
Hello, Are there still any objections to or comments on this proposal? Otherwise, i'd like to start voting in two weeks (if possible together with the related proposal natural=isthmus). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:natural%3Dpeninsula Thank you all for your suggestio

Re: [Tagging] The actual use of the level tag

2019-02-01 Thread Richard
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 02:44:50PM +0100, Tobias Zwick wrote: > I stumbled upon a real-world example yesterday that may make the attempt > to have the level-tag describe a "global" order (as used in OpenLevelUp, > JOSM etc.) somewhat impractical - with that level-selector UI element: > > So, Hamb

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 11:51, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > It appears in the descriptions that a 'ditch' can be used as a 'drain'. So > why have a tag 'drain'? > Really only to differentiate between lined & unlined, which I *think* may be important / needed? Thanks Graeme _

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Hufkratzer
On 01.02.2019 02:50 Warin wrote: It appears in the descriptions that a 'ditch' can be used as a 'drain'. So why have a tag 'drain'? Only if the water comes from wet land, not when it is industrial discharge (compare https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-January/042543.html )

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Peter Elderson
To map drains that are not ditches? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 1 feb. 2019 om 02:50 heeft Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> het volgende > geschreven: > > It appears in the descriptions that a 'ditch' can be used as a 'drain'. So > why have a tag 'drain'?

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Sergio Manzi
If you think it is important to differentiate between lined vs. unlined minor waterways (/and I'm not objecting to that/), I guess the best option would be to use a specific tag (lined=* ?) IMHO relying on the tagger knowledge of the OSM dictionary semantic subtleties (/which sometimes happen t

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 22:09, Sergio Manzi wrote: > If you think it is important to differentiate between lined vs. unlined > minor waterways (*and I'm not objecting to that*), I guess the best > option would be to use a specific tag (lined=* ?) > As I understand it, Ordnance Survey maps in the UK

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Sergio Manzi
I'm pretty sure that's the case in UK, but are you willing to bet on all drains (/e.g. industrial/) of the world being lined? On 2019-02-01 23:22, Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 22:09, Sergio Manzi mailto:s...@smz.it>> > wrote: > > If you think it is important to differentiate bet

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 22:29, Sergio Manzi wrote: > I'm pretty sure that's the case in UK, but are you willing to bet on all > drains (*e.g. industrial*) of the world being lined? > I wouldn't bet on that one. However, OSM uses British English terminology. Then again, I would hope an industrial

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Eugene Podshivalov
Here are some pictures to make the difference between drainage ditches and drain clear. Drainage ditches: [image: image.png] [image: image.png] Drains [image: image.png] [image: image.png] [image: image.png] [image: image.png] Cheers, Eugene сб, 2 февр. 2019 г. в 01:29, Sergio Manzi : > I'm pre

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 22:37, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: > Here are some pictures to make the difference between drainage ditches and > drain clear. > Drainage ditches: > [image: image.png] > [image: image.png] > > Drains > [image: image.png] > [image: image.png] > [image: image.png] > [image: imag

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Sergio Manzi
Right in these days you can read in the Italian newspapers of an industry having contaminated with industrial sewage an area inhabited by 300.000... And let's not get started with what we /"westerns" /normally call "the third world"... So, how do you tag drains which are not lined? On 2019-02

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 22:43, Sergio Manzi wrote: > So, how do you tag drains which are not lined? > Ditch. Because, physically, that's what it is. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/t

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Eugene Podshivalov
The direct images got blocked. So here are the links. Drainage ditches: https://ak2.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/32964022/thumb/12.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Drainage_Ditch_at_New_Eskham_Farm_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1170959.jpg Drains: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

2019-02-01 Thread Dave Swarthout
I like the proposal, Markus, but am confused by this statement: natural=peninsula is not intended for tagging coastal areas or coastal strips. What does it mean? Can you word it differently perhaps? Thanks for your efforts on this proposal. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 12:10 AM Markus wrote: > Hell

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Sergio Manzi
Please point me to a dictionary defining "drain" as a "lined ditch" or in any way stating that a drain must be lined, because I tried and I failed. Best I found is in dictionary.com  that (/under /"/Physical Geography/") define it as 1. an artificial watercourse, as a ditch or trench. 2. a na

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Dictionary.com usually provides definitions in American English, so it wouldn’t be a good source. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 8:35 AM Sergio Manzi wrote: > Please point me to a dictionary defining "drain" as a "lined ditch" or in > any way stating that a drain must be lined, because I tried and I fai

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-01 Thread Sergio Manzi
I know, that's why I asked for a good one... On 2019-02-02 01:23, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Dictionary.com usually provides definitions in American English, so it > wouldn’t be a good source. > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 8:35 AM Sergio Manzi > wrote: > > Please point me to