Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

2018-10-14 Thread Warin
I think that there first need to be clear definitions of what are: * public administration * executive * Legislature * Judiciary (courts) and where things fit... police (national, state, municipal) military - excluded? libraries (national, state, municipal) schools - excluded? tax offic

[Tagging] Power=cable for low voltage lines?

2018-10-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
The team at Openstreetmap-carto (the "standard" map style) recently added rendering for power=cable which are specifically tagged as being overground or overhead (on the ground or on poles). Most power=cable are high-voltage underground or underwater power cables, but some are insulated cables abo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

2018-10-14 Thread SelfishSeahorse
Thank you, Joseph and Warin, for your feedback! On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 04:02, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > However, I'm not sure that "governmental" is the best value for the landuse > key. I think there would be a risk of mappers finding this tag in the editors > and using it for all governnmen

Re: [Tagging] Power=cable for low voltage lines?

2018-10-14 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Jospeh, What a time to discuss about minor_line! Basically in power language, a line is not insulated while a cable actually is. I won't be in favor to slightly adapt minor_line to include some cables (even tiny). More generally, the concern to show on carto render only what is relevant or si

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

2018-10-14 Thread marc marc
Le 14. 10. 18 à 14:42, SelfishSeahorse a écrit : > public_administration isn't unproblematic too, because, if i'm not > mistaken, legislature facilities (places where > assembly/parliament/congress meets) and courts are another divisions > of government and don't belong to the public administration

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

2018-10-14 Thread SelfishSeahorse
Hi! On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 17:16, marc marc wrote: > > > But dividing land used for governing would complicate mapping too much > > why not ? school/education and military already exist. Because at least offices of the public administration and the executive body are often located in the same bu

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

2018-10-14 Thread SelfishSeahorse
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 17:42, SelfishSeahorse wrote: > > Because at least offices of the public administration and the > executive body are often located in the same building. PS: Public administration is actually considered being a part of the executive. Do you or anyone else have another idea

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

2018-10-14 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 6:32 PM SelfishSeahorse wrote: > > Do you or anyone else have another idea how to name land used for > governing or how to solve this problem differently? > landuse=scoundrels -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstree

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

2018-10-14 Thread Tom Hardy
On Sunday, 14 October 2018 12:30:49 CDT SelfishSeahorse wrote: > Do you or anyone else have another idea how to name land used for > governing or how to solve this problem differently? It doesn't seem to > be an easy task ... Just to throw a couple more your way: https://www.openstreetmap.org/w

Re: [Tagging] Power=cable for low voltage lines?

2018-10-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
What about the 2 insulated wires that attach my house to the nearest power pole? Are they a power=cable (overhead)? If we use the same tag for huge 10 cm wide cables and tiny 1cm cables, it makes it hard for map renderers to show power cables at all without leading to problems. Joseph On Sun, Oc

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

2018-10-14 Thread Warin
On 15/10/18 05:34, Tom Hardy wrote: On Sunday, 14 October 2018 12:30:49 CDT SelfishSeahorse wrote: Do you or anyone else have another idea how to name land used for governing or how to solve this problem differently? It doesn't seem to be an easy task ... Just to throw a couple more your way

Re: [Tagging] Traffic_sign discussion

2018-10-14 Thread yo paseopor
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:05 AM Colin Smale wrote: > I am not saying these cases are impossible, only that they have to be > accommodated, preferably as uniformly as possible. It is not intended as > criticism, but as a critical test of fitness for purpose. If the tagging > scheme can't handle th

Re: [Tagging] Cafe / Coffee shop tags?

2018-10-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 11. Oct 2018, at 14:03, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > He was thinking of using craft=roastery for places that roast (small) amounts > of coffee, in analogy to craft=brewery? in the German context craft means there is someone present who is qualified / has a formal p

Re: [Tagging] Traffic_sign discussion

2018-10-14 Thread yo paseopor
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:30 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > to me there is no point in mapping traffic signs on ways. Traffic signs > are punctual items, their supposed effect (our interpretation what they > imply for which way) is already mapped with established tags on the way. It > is m

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

2018-10-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
So police stations are out? The ministry of defense is in, but the subordinate units of it are out (because military)? Courts are in? Prisons? Storage (e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_strategic_petroleum_reserves )? What about publicly owned companies? Does it matter whether they are

Re: [Tagging] Traffic_sign discussion

2018-10-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 15. Oct 2018, at 00:52, yo paseopor wrote: > > I think traffic sign specific tags (traffic_sign, traffic_sign:direction (or > backward/forward subkeys) , traffic_sign:side (or side:) would never be used > as a tags for the ways. > -I'm agree with you in that. great y

Re: [Tagging] highway=crossing used on ways

2018-10-14 Thread Gerd Petermann
Mateusz Konieczny-3 wrote > How many highway=crossing on ways were added since  November 2015? > How many highway=crossing on nodes were added since  November 2015? > Without that it is hard to say anything. I agree that those are the important questions. I have some old taginfo data from 2015. On