Re: [Tagging] access=disabled

2018-05-18 Thread osm.tagging
With emergency and disabled as part of access restrictions, they central question becomes, are these access tag values (like yes, no, private, destination, delivery, customers, ...) or transport modes (like foot, bicycle, motor_vehicle, ...) access=no emergency=yes implies that it is a transpo

Re: [Tagging] access=disabled

2018-05-18 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
access=disabled sounds much like access=disallowed. 18-05-2018 10:03 tarihinde osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au yazdı: > With emergency and disabled as part of access restrictions, they central > question becomes, are these access tag values (like yes, no, private, > destination, delivery, cus

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop

2018-05-18 Thread Lorenzo Stucchi
Hi, After the discussion about that a walking school bus is not a public transport, so the proposal is to change the tag to amenity, like for taxi rank. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Walkingbus_stop Hi, Lorenzo Stucchi ___ Tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop

2018-05-18 Thread Jo
2018-05-18 17:11 GMT+02:00 Lorenzo Stucchi : > Hi, > > After the discussion about that a walking school bus is not a public > transport, so the proposal is to change the tag to amenity, like for taxi > rank. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Walkingbus_stop > > Do I unders

[Tagging] marking missing opening hours signs

2018-05-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
One may want to walk along the street and map info from available opening hour signs. In this situation it may be useful to record that some objects miss opening hours sign. Such tag would allow to prefer objects with completely unknown opening hours over ones where opening hours are unknown

Re: [Tagging] marking missing opening hours signs

2018-05-18 Thread marc marc
Le 18. 05. 18 à 20:46, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : > record that some objects miss opening hours sign. > I started using opening_hours_sign=no use/extend unsigned key and/or into a namespace https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:unsigned for ex unsigned=opening_hours or unsigned:opening_hours=y

Re: [Tagging] marking missing opening hours signs

2018-05-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
18. May 2018 21:03 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com : > for ex unsigned=opening_hours It would be problematic as soon as there is more than one unsigned parameter.   > or unsigned:opening_hours=yes (maybe strange due to "one only" value) > Seems OK, but

Re: [Tagging] marking missing opening hours signs

2018-05-18 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Seems OK, but I still prefer opening_hours_sign=no - it seems simpler. > These days, wouldn't opening_hours:sign=no be the preferred way to go? Also, it's possible that the hours are on the site's Farcebook page but there is no physical s

Re: [Tagging] marking missing opening hours signs

2018-05-18 Thread marc marc
Le 18. 05. 18 à 21:17, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : > 18. May 2018 21:03 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com > >> for ex unsigned=opening_hours > It would be problematic as soon as there is more than one unsigned > parameter. we can use the common ";" separator for that unsigned=key1;key2;key3 for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop

2018-05-18 Thread marc marc
Le 18. 05. 18 à 17:14, Jo a écrit : > > 2018-05-18 17:11 GMT+02:00 Lorenzo Stucchi > > After the discussion about that a walking school bus is not a > public transport, so the proposal is to change the tag to amenity, > like for taxi rank. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wik

Re: [Tagging] marking missing opening hours signs

2018-05-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
18. May 2018 21:56 by pla16...@gmail.com : > These days, wouldn't opening_hours:sign=no be the preferred way to go?  This is my favorite at this moment. I plan to modify proposal to use this one. > it's possible that the hours are on the site's Farcebook page but

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop

2018-05-18 Thread osm.tagging
I agree that it definitely is "transport" and that it has all the features (pole, waiting area, timetable, fixed route) that make it very suitable to map as public_transport. The only thing we have to decide upon is how "public" a public_transport must be. Does it have to be available to all m

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop

2018-05-18 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 19/05/18 09:47, osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: I agree that it definitely is "transport" and that it has all the features (pole, waiting area, timetable, fixed route) that make it very suitable to map as public_transport. Huh? I would have thought that a key requirement would be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop

2018-05-18 Thread osm.tagging
As I said, it has poles, areas people wait, a fixed route, a repeating timetable, there is a "driver" and it's purpose is specifically to transport people from one location to another. The fact that you have to put in personal effort (walking) during the transportation within this framework does

Re: [Tagging] tagging arbiters (gone OT)

2018-05-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 8:03 AM, Dave F wrote: > On 13/05/2018 22:34, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > I've long said that the final arbiters of tagging should be... the people > who implement the routers, renderers, navigation systems,. search engines, > and so on > > > No. > > We already have the case wh

[Tagging] Seasonal, intermittent, and ephemeral water tags

2018-05-18 Thread Warin
Hi, I seek comments and thoughts on - Seasonal: The seasonal tag in well established. I don't think there is much confusion with it. --- Intermittent: The intermittent tag continues to be confused with seasonal. Possibly this is because some want to use it to ind

Re: [Tagging] tagging arbiters (gone OT)

2018-05-18 Thread osm.tagging
It’s not an carto-osm bug, it’s a level lower: https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/issues/230 If that ever gets implemented properly, then carto-osm and other data users can make use of it… From: Paul Johnson Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2018 12:12 To: Tag discussion, strategy and r

Re: [Tagging] Seasonal, intermittent, and ephemeral water tags

2018-05-18 Thread osm.tagging
> -Original Message- > From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2018 12:33 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > > Think I have raised this before but not come to any firm conclusion > myself. > > I think that tagging > > seasonal=summer > > intermittent

Re: [Tagging] Seasonal, intermittent, and ephemeral water tags

2018-05-18 Thread Tod Fitch
> On May 18, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I seek comments and thoughts on > > - > > Seasonal: > > The seasonal tag in well established. I don't think there is much confusion > with it. > > > --- > > Intermittent: > > The inter

Re: [Tagging] tagging arbiters (gone OT)

2018-05-18 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:38 PM, wrote: > It’s not an carto-osm bug, it’s a level lower: > > > > https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/issues/230 > > > > If that ever gets implemented properly, then carto-osm and other data > users can make use of it… > > > > *From:* Paul Johnson > *Sent:*

Re: [Tagging] Seasonal, intermittent, and ephemeral water tags

2018-05-18 Thread Warin
On 19/05/18 13:06, osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: -Original Message- From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2018 12:33 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Think I have raised this before but not come to any firm conclusion myself. I think that t

Re: [Tagging] tagging arbiters (gone OT)

2018-05-18 Thread Yves
As a possible alternative, Imposm creates a relation_member tables that make it fast and efficient to do whatever you want with routes (and even sites!) with a trivial JOIN: you know which elements belongs to which relation and which relation contains which element. It's a bit like the planet_os

Re: [Tagging] Seasonal, intermittent, and ephemeral water tags

2018-05-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Following with interest, thanks. How do you then tag areas that only flood / run / hold water after (very) heavy rain? Are they intermittent? Thanks Graeme On 19 May 2018 at 15:20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 19/05/18 13:06, osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: > > -Orig