[Tagging] wayside shrine tag definition page

2018-02-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
The wiki has an example for a wayside shrine which I wouldn't classify as "shrine", it's rather a column, no space inside: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Eleonorens%C3%A4ule_Penzing.jpg What do you think, shall we remove the image? Context: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:histo

Re: [Tagging] wayside shrine tag definition page

2018-02-12 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > The wiki has an example for a wayside shrine which I wouldn't classify as > "shrine", it's rather a column, no space inside: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Eleonorens%C3%A4ule_Penzing.jpg If a symbol is sacred (even if it'

Re: [Tagging] wayside shrine tag definition page

2018-02-12 Thread OSMDoudou
Yes. According to this description in French [1], to be defined as "oratoire" / "shrine", there should be a cavity to exhibit something (with a cross, a roof, etc.). So, it's also my interpretation that the picture is more a column than a shrine. [1] http://www.les-oratoires.asso.fr/presentati

Re: [Tagging] wayside shrine tag definition page

2018-02-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Feb 2018, at 13:39, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > > If a symbol is sacred (even if it's a column) and people use it for > praying/worshiping, is really there any difference from a a small > building with a space inside? I think it is about terminology, for instanc

Re: [Tagging] wayside shrine tag definition page

2018-02-12 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:47 AM, OSMDoudou <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > According to this description in French [1], to be defined as "oratoire" / > "shrine", there should be a cavity to exhibit something (with a cross, a > roof, etc.). Maybe the definition of a "shri

Re: [Tagging] wayside shrine tag definition page

2018-02-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Feb 2018, at 14:06, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > > For example, this Buddhist shrine doesn't seem to have any space or > cavity (the Buddha is placed on an altar, it seems). > http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=61,12053,0,0,1,0 I’m wouldn’t call this a wa

Re: [Tagging] wayside shrine tag definition page

2018-02-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
For me it is something that I would describe as shrine and it is certainly the same in function. I guess that to solve that somebody should check how "shrine" tends to be defined (I am not a native speaker of English). On 12 Feb 2018 1:30 p.m., "Martin Koppenhoefer" wrote: > The wiki has an exa

Re: [Tagging] wayside shrine tag definition page

2018-02-12 Thread José G Moya Y .
There could be some bias on the translation. As an example, the name ID gives to it in Spanish (santuario al borde del camino=holy place close to a road) is somehow arbitrary. As most beginners read the translated tag name only, and different languages make different segmentations of reality, havi

[Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

2018-02-12 Thread François Lacombe
Hi everybody, The hydro power waterway proposal has been updated to take care of several useful comments made during the last vote. Here is a changelog : - Moving from waterway=drain to waterway=canal since a drain is mainly intended to remove superfluous water. A canal carries water from A to B

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

2018-02-12 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:44 PM, François Lacombe wrote: > Hi everybody, > > The hydro power waterway proposal has been updated to take care of several > useful comments made during the last vote. > > Here is a changelog : > - Moving from waterway=drain to waterway=canal since a drain is mainly >

Re: [Tagging] AutoEdit rename roof:slope:direction to roof:direction

2018-02-12 Thread Rebo
Nice,thank you for processing and wiki completions ;DGreets,ReboOn 12 Feb 2018 1:06 AM, marc marc wrote:Hello, https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/56277877 the POC for the first part Regards, Marc ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetma

Re: [Tagging] wayside shrine tag definition page

2018-02-12 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > For me it is something that I would describe as shrine and it is certainly > the same in function. > > I guess that to solve that somebody should check how "shrine" tends to be > defined (I am not a native speaker of English). For what i

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

2018-02-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
There is another type of a combination of open waterway, underground waterway, and pressurised waterway/pipeline: a siphon (see [1]). This is a frequent situation here in northern Italy. They came in all sizes, and there are hundreds of them around here. The technical trick with these is that the l

Re: [Tagging] wayside shrine tag definition page

2018-02-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Feb 2018, at 18:55, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > The key aspect is that it is a pilgrimage site nice research on “shrine” in catholic law, but we’re discussing “wayside shrine”, which is, as I understand it, not any shrine with a way nearby (because every church has at

[Tagging] Default values for residential roads and living streets

2018-02-12 Thread Selfish Seahorse
Hi There were quite a few additions of cycleway:both=no and lanes=1 tags to residential roads and living streets recently, which makes me wonder if it might make sense to define cycleway:both=no and lanes=1 as default values for highway=residential and highway=living_street on the wiki. What do yo

Re: [Tagging] Default values for residential roads and living streets

2018-02-12 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Selfish Seahorse > wrote: > > Hi > > There were quite a few additions of cycleway:both=no and lanes=1 tags > to residential roads and living streets recently, which makes me > wonder if it might make sense to define cycleway:both=no and lanes=1 > as default value

Re: [Tagging] Default values for residential roads and living streets

2018-02-12 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 12. 02. 18 à 22:02, Selfish Seahorse a écrit : > There were quite a few additions of cycleway:both=no and lanes=1 tags > to residential roads and living streets recently, which makes me > wonder if it might make sense to define cycleway:both=no and lanes=1 > as default values for highway

Re: [Tagging] Default values for residential roads and living streets

2018-02-12 Thread Bill Ricker
> Nearly all the residential roads in my part of the world should default to > lanes=2. What drives me crazy is in my neighborhood, the residential roads are physically wide enough for 3 lanes, but with parking lanes on both sides, and some are still signed for two-way traffic. Winds up being lik

Re: [Tagging] Default values for residential roads and living streets

2018-02-12 Thread Selfish Seahorse
> Nearly all the residential roads in my part of the world should default to > lanes=2. OK, I didn't know that (this is why I asked). Thanks for your reply! On 12 February 2018 at 22:09, Tod Fitch wrote: > >> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Selfish Seahorse >> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> There were q

Re: [Tagging] Default values for residential roads and living streets

2018-02-12 Thread Selfish Seahorse
> I don't see how it would be possible to set a default global value. I thought that just mentioning them in the wiki would be enough (like the default access restrictions). But as residential roads with more than one lane seem to be common elsewhere, there is no need for such a global default val

Re: [Tagging] Default values for residential roads and living streets

2018-02-12 Thread Matej Lieskovský
Mentioning defaults on the wiki is not machine-readable. We've been talking about this for a while now - can someone please set up a separate channel for a discussion about the mechanism for setting defaults? Matej Lieskovský On 12 February 2018 at 22:28, Selfish Seahorse wrote: >> I don't see h

Re: [Tagging] Default values for residential roads and living streets

2018-02-12 Thread Warin
On 13-Feb-18 08:16 AM, Bill Ricker wrote: Nearly all the residential roads in my part of the world should default to lanes=2. What drives me crazy is in my neighborhood, the residential roads are physically wide enough for 3 lanes, but with parking lanes on both sides, and some are still signed