Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-28 Thread Safwat Halaby
On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 10:01 -0700, Mark Wagner wrote: > This isn't a garden center.  A garden center is where you'd go to get > a > half-kilo bag of pre-mixed fertilizer, or a tray of seedlings, or > similar small-scale items.  A farming-supply business is where you'd > go to get a tank-trailer of

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-28 Thread ael
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 08:04:35AM +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: > shop=agrarian is terrible, I agree. Is this a shop that caters to > "agrarians" or does it sell "agrarians"? > > Nor do I like shop=trade, trade=agricultural_supplies. I don't think of > farming or agriculture as a trade similar to

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-28 Thread ael
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:03:57AM -0400, Mark Bradley wrote: > Thanks for all the replies. It seems there are two already-established > tagging schemes for what I want to map. They are > > > > shop=agrarian > > or > > shop=trade > trade=agricultural_supplies After my last post, I realise

Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-28 Thread François Lacombe
2017-09-28 1:48 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > there’s also a proposed relation to map different things on the same node > (similar to how a multipoligon relation allows to reuse the same geometry > several times). > Hi Martin, What does this relation look like ? It's related to what device

Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-28 14:12 GMT+02:00 François Lacombe : > 2017-09-28 1:48 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > >> >> there’s also a proposed relation to map different things on the same node >> (similar to how a multipoligon relation allows to reuse the same geometry >> several times). >> > > Hi Martin, > > Wh

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-28 Thread Dave Swarthout
Same with my comment - I don't really have a stake in the outcome of this discussion. I was merely making an observation that reflects my American point of view. >"the same objection could be raised to "shop", which isn't the first word that comes to mind for the large > establishments, but again

Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-28 Thread José G Moya Y .
Hi, François. You ask for more examples. I don't know about power lines and transformers, but these ideas came to my mind: If you have a street light with a dust bin attached to it, the dust bin goes in "devices"? And if you have a bus stop that holds a recycling slot for batteries, the recycling

Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-28 16:24 GMT+02:00 José G Moya Y. : > You ask for more examples. I don't know about power lines and > transformers, but these ideas came to my mind: > If you have a street light with a dust bin attached to it, the dust bin > goes in "devices"? > And if you have a bus stop that holds a recy

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

2017-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-19 9:46 GMT+02:00 SwiftFast : > Although I agree it's a problem, it's unrelated to the proposal. That's > a general OSM problem related to chains/brands with repetitive values. > It's not tag-specific. The same could be said about cuisine, name > translations, website, operator, etc. n

Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-28 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 28. 09. 17 à 16:32, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > I prefer the generic solution (node relation) over a specific device > solution, which still doesn't allow for more details (different > properties, layering order, etc.) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:devices devices descri

Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-28 16:50 GMT+02:00 marc marc : > Hello, > > Le 28. 09. 17 à 16:32, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > I prefer the generic solution (node relation) over a specific device > > solution, which still doesn't allow for more details (different > > properties, layering order, etc.) > > https://wi

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

2017-09-28 Thread Volker Schmidt
No, also from me. I do not see any use. In addition, it would be repetitive, and from time to time you would have to change them en bloc. On 28 September 2017 at 16:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > 2017-09-19 9:46 GMT+02:00 SwiftFast : > >> Although I agree it's a problem, it's unrelated t

Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-28 Thread José G Moya Y .
Ok. Now I understand it. Thanks. El 28/9/2017 17:04, "Martin Koppenhoefer" escribió: > > > 2017-09-28 16:50 GMT+02:00 marc marc : > >> Hello, >> >> Le 28. 09. 17 à 16:32, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : >> > I prefer the generic solution (node relation) over a specific device >> > solution, which

Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-28 Thread marc marc
Le 28. 09. 17 à 17:02, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > we have the tag "step_count", maybe a simple > "transformer_count" would be an alternative? What would be the advantage of creating a "X_count" tag for each object that needs it when a single tag devices is enough to do the same thing ? Reg

Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-28 18:47 GMT+02:00 marc marc : > Le 28. 09. 17 à 17:02, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > we have the tag "step_count", maybe a simple > > "transformer_count" would be an alternative? > > What would be the advantage of creating a "X_count" tag for each object > that needs it when a single

Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-28 Thread François Lacombe
2017-09-28 19:27 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > from the wiki page I get the impression that the ":devices" is the same > thing as the "_count", just less meaningful on a semantic level and only > usable for "devices" (e.g. "steps" hardly can't be considered devices). The > intended meaning o

[Tagging] Public wifi

2017-09-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Noticed in the discussion of the devices tag, mention of devices attached to telephone booths, which got me thinking. Here in Australia, Telstra provides public wifi access via it's Telstra Air network (https://www.telstra.com.au/telstra-air), which is also linked to the international Fon netw

Re: [Tagging] Public wifi (Fon)

2017-09-28 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-09-29 02:22, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi > > Noticed in the discussion of the devices tag, mention of devices > attached to telephone booths, which got me thinking. > > Here in Australia, Telstra provides public wifi access via it's > Telstra Air network (https://www.telstra.com.au/telst

Re: [Tagging] Public wifi

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
Does https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:internet_access cover your needs ? They also explain why it is not under amenity. regards m. On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi > > Noticed in the discussion of the devices tag, mention of devices attached to > telephone

Re: [Tagging] Public wifi (Fon)

2017-09-28 Thread Warin
On 29-Sep-17 11:03 AM, André Pirard wrote: On 2017-09-29 02:22, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi Noticed in the discussion of the devices tag, mention of devices attached to telephone booths, which got me thinking. Here in Australia, Telstra provides public wifi access via it's Telstra Air netw