Re: [Tagging] traffic_signals:direction=* vs. direction=*

2017-03-21 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:47:46 -0400 Kevin Kenny wrote: > > If there is a traffic signal at an intersection, the default is that > traffic from any direction will be facing a signal. Yes, but only in the case of tagging the traffic signals at the intersection node. If the traffic_signals tag is pl

Re: [Tagging] traffic_signals:direction=* vs. direction=*

2017-03-21 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:46:17 +0100 LeTopographeFou wrote: > > I think that both stop, give way and traffic signals shall have a > consistent definition of direction and shall be consistent in which > key to encourage. As soon as direction=* is valid I would encourage > it as the primary method, w

Re: [Tagging] Starbucks or Starbucks Coffee

2017-03-21 Thread Jherome Miguel
Why long names appear on Starbucks stores in Japan when seen on Google Maps is that the data there is from a third-party map provider, i.e. ZENRIN. Google discourages such locators as messy, like what you stated, and descriptive, but they kept the data from ZENRIN as they are on the original, thoug

Re: [Tagging] Starbucks or Starbucks Coffee

2017-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I would tag them as internet cafes, you can't get serious coffee there. ;-) Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Starbucks or Starbucks Coffee

2017-03-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
Just put "brand:wikidata=Q37158" and you're done with it. Names are not universal identifiers. Making machine edits to rename hundreds of stores doesn't help all that much, and can create edit wars. Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] traffic_signals:direction=* vs. direction=*

2017-03-21 Thread Dave Swarthout
This is embarrassing but relevant to this conversation. I've been mapping intensely for several years but adding stop signs was something I rarely did. There's so much else that needs attention that I wasn't even following this thread. Then today I was using Osmose to correct errors in Alaska and k

Re: [Tagging] Starbucks or Starbucks Coffee

2017-03-21 Thread Dave Swarthout
I love the idea of adding "brand:wikidata=Q37158" to any Starbucks object but what people see isn't the wikidata key, what they see is the contents of the name key. How to tag the name of these places is still a problem that won't disappear with Janko's solution. Unless, of course, there is a way

Re: [Tagging] traffic_signals:direction=* vs. direction=*

2017-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-03-21 0:36 GMT+01:00 yo paseopor : > 2-putting the node at the side visually is more realistic...but it is so > unuseful as be a independent node, so it is better to put it IN the way and > mark its position with subkeys or other tags as side relatives to this way > the node is in. it is f

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Power pole extension

2017-03-21 Thread Jherome Miguel
After making modifications to the proposal page, including fixing problems pointed by other users, voting can now start. There are some changes made before starting voting, like raising the highest voltage of power lines that can use poles as supports from 150,000 volts (150 kV) or 161,000 volts (1

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-03-20 19:23 GMT+01:00 yo paseopor : > whether the node is independent or part of one or more ways depends on the >> situation and mapper. Even if the node is now part of just one way, in the >> future this might change and it can become member of more ways (e.g. if the >> way it is on is spli

Re: [Tagging] Adding directionality to stop signs

2017-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-03-20 17:36 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt : > BTW the Stop sign is even more frequent in Italy than in the US, but it > influences much less the travel time, because drivers simply don't stop > most of the time, contrary to the practice in the US, or Germany, or the UK. yes, because (traffic re

Re: [Tagging] Adding directionality to stop signs

2017-03-21 Thread Simone Saviolo
2017-03-20 17:36 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt : > I am inserting them in quantity, but only in the simple way of a node on > the way. "My" stop signs apply to the nearest junction. This should in > principle allow a routing algorithm to determine the directionality of the > sign. I would consider havi

Re: [Tagging] Adding directionality to stop signs

2017-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-03-21 12:57 GMT+01:00 Simone Saviolo : > Don't confuse the give way sign with the stop sign. Stop requires the > driver to stop, even in Italy. Sure, many people don't, but that doesn't > mean they should :) If rule ignorance is systematic and you can almost rely on the police ignoring you

Re: [Tagging] address property of features

2017-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-03-18 17:56 GMT+01:00 Tristan Anderson : > Let's say a store has three entrances: 2, 4 and 6 Main Street. The store > uses it's main entrance, 4 Main Street, as it's address. Are you > suggesting using the addr:housenumber key four times: a node at each > entrance in addition to a tag on th

Re: [Tagging] Starbucks or Starbucks Coffee

2017-03-21 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:40 PM, Jherome Miguel wrote: > > Why long names appear on Starbucks stores in Japan when seen on Google Maps > is that the data there is from a third-party map provider, i.e. ZENRIN. > Google discourages such locators as messy, like what you stated, and > desc

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Power pole extension

2017-03-21 Thread Warin
On 21-Mar-17 10:23 PM, Jherome Miguel wrote: After making modifications to the proposal page, including fixing problems pointed by other users, voting can now start. There are some changes made before starting voting, like raising the highest voltage of power lines that can use poles as support

[Tagging] Spillways

2017-03-21 Thread John Willis
How do you tag an emergency spillway? I am tagging a giant flood control reservoir in my region. The “lake” is surrounded by giant man-made embankments on all sides, surrounded by an additional set of embankments, with gates to let the water out. There is no dam per se, because there is ~200

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

2017-03-21 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:44:17 +0900 John Willis wrote: > How do you tag an emergency spillway? > > I am tagging a giant flood control reservoir in my region. The “lake” > is surrounded by giant man-made embankments on all sides, surrounded > by an additional set of embankments, with gates to le

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

2017-03-21 Thread Dave Swarthout
Weir does not seem appropriate for this type of thing. There is a tag, waterway=spillway, that seems like a good fit - 81 uses so far. You could also add emergency=yes to the above or create a new tag, emergency=spillway Cheers Dave On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Mark Wagner wrote: > On We

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

2017-03-21 Thread Bill Ricker
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Weir does not seem appropriate for this type of thing. There is a tag, > waterway=spillway, that seems like a good fit - 81 uses so far. > > You could also add emergency=yes to the above or create a new tag, > emergency=spillway > ​or use

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

2017-03-21 Thread John Willis
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: > > ​or use surface tags to distinguish the paved from unpaved​ as we do with > roads ? This section is paved, but it is the function of the wall of dirt with asphalt on top I’m trying to map. someone actually took a picture out there in th