Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread yo paseopor
It's true, but OSM wiki, the tool people like me who tries to learn how to do something uses says that: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator#When_NOT_to_use . Change the wiki please if it is not. Wiki explains "In general *avoid ';' separated values whenever possible*. D

[Tagging] wiki problems (was [Talk-us] destination:street)

2017-01-22 Thread Andy Townsend
There is a fundamental problem with any wiki, and it's not easy to fix. Each page was obviously last edited by one user and one user only - they had the chance to change anything in it. In some cases there is a difference of opinion about how to do something, some editors (Harry Wood is an ob

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread Johan C
I don't like your idea yopaseopor. Why: 1. It's not forbidden to use a semicolon: 'But there are cases where semicolons work and, anyway, we can’t completely avoid them. Let’s work on defining our data model better and make it clearer where those semicolons can and should be used and how they are

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 8:21 AM, yo paseopor wrote: > Other solution > destination=Main Street > destination:2=7th Avenue > destination:3=Downtown Mappersville > destination:4=Karte County Courthouse > ... and so on. > Is this actually being used by anyone? Semicolons have seperated multiple va

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread yo paseopor
It's not about tastes or individual habilty . It's about " the aim of *keeping it simple* both for data *contributors* (mappers) and data *users" * Semicolon works? I don't have any doubt of it but not in ALL the apps and services as subtags don't do in others...but could be implemented. Is not av

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 11:09 AM, yo paseopor wrote: > And if you search top100 list there are only 12 values with semicolon , 2 > with comma . All these values together are only 1792 tagged values...from > 71665 total values. I would expect that each value for destination only occurs a small num

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread yo paseopor
> I would expect that each value for destination only occurs a small > number of times, especially when there are multiple destinations. Why > would a certain combination of destinations occurs more than a handful > of times ? Hence, you will not find them in the top values on taginfo. > So you s

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread Hakuch
On 22.01.2017 11:09, yo paseopor wrote: > It's true, but OSM wiki, the tool people like me who tries to learn how to > do something uses says that: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator#When_NOT_to_use > . > Change the wiki please if it is not. The wiki is correct at thi

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread Hakuch
On 22.01.2017 20:41, yo paseopor wrote: > So you say each value...(are we talking about multiple values or values > with semicolon?). What are the most used values: unique or multiple? Why > don't we use multiple values more often? Like I said in my other post, the wiki is not very clear here, but

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread yo paseopor
> > Following this, you could try to find semantic weight for the different > destinations and discuss/use them. But when there is none (what I > assume), Spanish ministery responsible of the roads did not think that http://www.fomento.es/NR/rdonlyres/FC57DE0A-72BF-408F- 810E-467894BA8E38/110896/

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread Hakuch
On 22.01.2017 21:20, yo paseopor wrote: >> >> Following this, you could try to find semantic weight for the different >> destinations and discuss/use them. But when there is none (what I >> assume), > > Spanish ministery responsible of the roads did not think that > > http://www.fomento.es/NR/rdo

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread Hakuch
On 22.01.2017 21:20, yo paseopor wrote: > As you can see order is not random. In Catalonia is the same. How do you > make correspondence with the order. But I agree, when there is really a important sense in order of the values, putting them in a multiple value could be wrong ___

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread Colin Smale
On 2017-01-22 21:51, Hakuch wrote: > On 22.01.2017 21:20, yo paseopor wrote: > >> As you can see order is not random. In Catalonia is the same. How do you >> make correspondence with the order. > > But I agree, when there is really a important sense in order of the > values, putting them in a m

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread yo paseopor
I need help. How to tag a roundabout destination traffic sign https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/6bMYhgICHVBL_H70ZnyPAg ? With correspondence it is easy (for me), but I don't know how to do it with multiple values. Also I hope OSM people will advise strongly Finnish people as they are using suffixed

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread Johan C
2017-01-22 22:32 GMT+01:00 yo paseopor : > I need help. How to tag a roundabout destination traffic sign > https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/6bMYhgICHVBL_H70ZnyPAg ? With > correspondence it is easy (for me), but I don't know how to do it with > multiple values. > > Please check it out (in JOSM for

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-22 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:41 PM, yo paseopor wrote: >> I would expect that each value for destination only occurs a small >> number of times, especially when there are multiple destinations. Why >> would a certain combination of destinations occurs more than a handful >> of times ? Hence, you wil