[Tagging] amenity=retirement_home and social facility

2016-07-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
After the recent discussion nursing homes, there is a similar situation with retirement_homes. I suggest to introduce a new tag social_facility=retirement_home for these. Currently, there are examples on this page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:social_facility#Examples suggesting that ret

Re: [Tagging] amenity=retirement_home and social facility

2016-07-01 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on 2016/07/01 17:13: After the recent discussion nursing homes, there is a similar situation with retirement_homes. I suggest to introduce a new tag social_facility=retirement_home for these. Currently, there are examples on this page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w

[Tagging] steps parallel to escalator

2016-07-01 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Hello all, A few questions about steps/escalators: (1) Should an escalator always have "highway=steps"? I.e. highway=steps conveying=yes (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:conveying ). (2) How would I tag steps that run in parallel to an escalator? Can this be done with one way only? If

Re: [Tagging] steps parallel to escalator

2016-07-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 01 lug 2016, alle ore 19:30, Bjoern Hassler > ha scritto: > > (2) How would I tag steps that run in parallel to an escalator? Can this be > done with one way only? no > If so how? Or would I need two ways? In my opinion it would be best to do it > with one

Re: [Tagging] steps parallel to escalator

2016-07-01 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bjoern, Am 01.07.2016 um 19:30 schrieb Bjoern Hassler: > A few questions about steps/escalators: > > (1) Should an escalator always have "highway=steps"? I.e. > highway=steps > conveying=yes > (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:conveying ). Yes. An escalator can be used as a steps ev

[Tagging] Minor variations in name "Circle, Metropolitan, Hammersmith and City"

2016-07-01 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Hello, there is a minor variation in a series of objects named: Circle, Hammersmith and City, and Metropolitan line Circle, Metropolitan, Hammersmith and City the line tag is "Circle,HammersmithAndCity,Metropolitan" is both cases, but IMHO the name should be the same as well. I can't see a good

Re: [Tagging] amenity=retirement_home and social facility

2016-07-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 01 lug 2016, alle ore 19:02, Tom Pfeifer > ha scritto: > > As it is not a nursing home, there is no constant nursing. So a nurse might be > available on request, or there might be age-specific animation, so it is > either > "assisted living" or a "group home", d

Re: [Tagging] amenity=retirement_home and social facility

2016-07-01 Thread Tom Pfeifer
As we have seen from the nursing home discussion, there is a continuum of variations of such facilities, with overlapping concepts. In OSM we need to decide, how many distinctive tags we need. There was a clear need to separate group_home from nursing_home. I'm not convinced yet that we need t

Re: [Tagging] amenity=retirement_home and social facility

2016-07-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 01 lug 2016, alle ore 21:41, Tom Pfeifer > ha scritto: > > There is certainly a general trend to provide such social services on a > smaller > scale, e.g. children are not locked into dormitory-style orphanages > anymore but cared for in family-like group-home s

Re: [Tagging] amenity=retirement_home and social facility

2016-07-01 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > AFAIK assisted living is a more specific term then it might seem at > first sight, a kind of residence within apartments and assistance on > demand, as opposed to a retirement home with less privacy and more > institutional character, but the term is also more gener

Re: [Tagging] amenity=retirement_home and social facility

2016-07-01 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > Wikipedia also seems to confirm that this is a specific service > (although I don't buy the "too young for a retirement home" part): > > "Assisted living as it exists today emerged in the 1990s as an > eldercare alternative on the continuum of care for people, for w

Re: [Tagging] amenity=retirement_home and social facility

2016-07-01 Thread Colin Smale
Why not try taking a more objective approach with the tagging? I mean less emphasis on what it is called (which clearly varies widely and is subject to discussion) and more emphasis on what it is, which should be less controversial and give a quicker convergence. One might consider characteristic

Re: [Tagging] steps parallel to escalator

2016-07-01 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 01.07.2016 20:02, Michael Reichert wrote: Am 01.07.2016 um 19:30 schrieb Bjoern Hassler: Yes, you draw to parallel ways. One way gets conveying=yes, the other one not (or conveying=no). As the co-author of the conveying proposal, I'd like to offer an alternative here. The proposal already m