[Tagging] Heliport tagging

2015-10-21 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 21.10.2015 0:14, johnw napisał(a): How do we handle military Heliports? If I change the main tag to aeroway=heliport, then the subtag of aerodrome=military is broken, right? Wouldn’t we need a heliport=* subtag to replicate this (heliport=military) ?? As far as I understand this pro

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

2015-10-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-10-21 11:18 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć : > How do we handle military Heliports? >> >> If I change the main tag to aeroway=heliport, then the subtag of >> aerodrome=military is broken, right? >> >> Wouldn’t we need a heliport=* subtag to replicate this >> (heliport=military) ?? >> > > As far as I un

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

2015-10-21 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 21.10.2015 11:24, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): I would not define an heliport as a subclass of an airport, but rather as a subtype of an aerodrome. My understanding is that those are just regional naming differences (UK/US) and both refer to the same kind of objects. Could you descr

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
Sure, when you're drafting out the lanes in JOSM or rendering them in Osmand, your lane counts are off by however many bike lanes there are if you don't explicitly map them in the lanes count and tag accordingly. On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Hubert wrote: > Hey Paul, > > I couldn’t find a pr

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - aeroway=heliport

2015-10-21 Thread Warin
On 21/10/2015 9:14 AM, johnw wrote: I have created/changed all the necessary links and pages, including main feature page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dheliport If you see something missing or needing more care, please let me know (or just fix it yourself). I was just upd

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

2015-10-21 Thread johnw
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I would not define an heliport as a subclass of an airport, but rather as a > subtype of an aerodrome. Didn’t we just vote on and approve a tag defining an heliport as a seperate tag? perhaps I am confused. Javbw___

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

2015-10-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/21/2015 11:18 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: > As far as I understand this problem, it's not yet properly resolved. On > the aerodrome page type=* key is stroked, however type key page doesn't > contain any discouraging notes on this Well the type key page clearly recommends not using type for

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

2015-10-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.10.2015 um 13:13 schrieb johnw : > > Didn’t we just vote on and approve a tag defining an heliport as a seperate > tag? > > perhaps I am confused. by the wiki an aeroway=aerodrome is a place for airplanes, by the meaning of the word aerodrome (place for aircraft)

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

2015-10-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.10.2015 um 11:36 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > Helper question: what do you mean by "subtype"/"subclass" - is it meaningful > difference or just wording? it's the same, a subtype is the real world view on something, a subclass could be seen as our representation of it.

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

2015-10-21 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 21.10.2015 16:37, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): Am 21.10.2015 um 11:36 schrieb Daniel Koć : Helper question: what do you mean by "subtype"/"subclass" - is it meaningful difference or just wording? it's the same, a subtype is the real world view on something, a subclass could be seen

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

2015-10-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-10-21 16:43 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć : > It was just a helper question, you omitted the real one... =} I answered it implicitly in another reply: either we redefine aeroway=aerodrome to be more inclusive and deprecate the recently approved aeroway=heliport tag, or we keep stuff like it is and

Re: [Tagging] Heliport tagging

2015-10-21 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 21.10.2015 17:39, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): I answered it implicitly in another reply: either we redefine aeroway=aerodrome to be more inclusive and deprecate the recently approved aeroway=heliport tag, or we keep stuff like it is and use heliport=* for subclasses. Thanks, now I u

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-21 Thread Hubert
I'm sorry Paul, but I still don't understand what your issue is exactly. Do you get an error message or similar in JOSM? What do you mean by "drafting out the lanes"? And in OSMAND the only "lane rendering" I know of is when you enable "Show lanes" for routing purposes. Is that what you mean? Cou

Re: [Tagging] post_box:type values, meter in particular

2015-10-21 Thread John Eldredge
U.S. Post Offices used to have separate collection slots for stamped mail and metered mail (postage printed on it by a machine), but it is several years since I last remember seeing such. The only American usage for the term "franked mail" that I am aware of is that members of the United States

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-21 Thread John Eldredge
Some castles that started off as strictly defensible structures had nondefensible additions later, in peaceable times. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther Kin

Re: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-21 Thread GerdP
Hi all, I've contacted a few mappers and it seems that there is a need to keep some of the ways for the reason described by Mateusz below. Now, as so many before, I try to find a good tag to express this. Using a line with only a note tag is no good idea as QA tools will not like them. IMHO the