Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 03:17:17PM -0700, geow wrote: > > I personally prefer to use the universal and compatible "highway=path". > Along with specific sub-tags for physical and access properties it's the > Swiss army knife for non motorized traffic. I don't think Swiss army knifes must be used

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:09:44AM +0300, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Warin wrote: > > > > > On 28/08/2015 9:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > > > My suggestion is to not assume any access defaults but rather > > > > exp

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

W dniu 29.08.2015 12:46, Richard napisał(a): highway=footpath may cause less trouble. Sounds interesting, that would separate "real" foot path from the current path mess. However the big question would be then how to implement it in our ecosystem? Something as important as this would need

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

Saturday 29 August 2015 12:46:04, Richard: > highway=footpath may cause less trouble. I think it would cause *more* trouble. This resembles highway=footway too much, especially for non-native English speakers. -- The field "from" of an email is about as reliable as the address written on the

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

> On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:17 AM, geow wrote: > > Along with specific sub-tags for physical and access properties it's the > Swiss army knife for non motorized traffic. We have a cutting block full of kitchen knives. How many people use the pocketknife to cut vegetables in the kitchen? How many

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

sent from a phone > Am 29.08.2015 um 01:05 schrieb John Willis : > > There is a mall in Tokyo with a train station going through it, with a > gigantic ferris wheel on top, with a roller coaster going through the center > of the ferris wheel! It is a spaghetti madness there! yes, clearly for

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

sent from a phone > Am 29.08.2015 um 01:05 schrieb John Willis : > > Building=Big_box_retail > Shop=supermarket > Name=big stand-alone supermarket > (Shop could be a big diy store, electronics, etc as a big-box as well) supermarkets have different requirements than electronics stores, e.g. be

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

sent from a phone > Am 29.08.2015 um 01:20 schrieb John Willis : > > Airports, malls, military bases, shopping centres, car dealerships, gated > communities, and many other locations are usually a lot bigger than their > buildings. Most locations built for cars are twice the size of the build

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

Javbw > On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Richard wrote: > > I think that "trail" is very vague, look at english witkionary, wagon trail > etc > so the word itself would already cause trouble. > > highway=footpath may cause less trouble I think highway=primary is very vague. It is the name of a

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 01:10:17PM +0200, Daniel Koć wrote: > W dniu 29.08.2015 12:46, Richard napisał(a): > > >highway=footpath may cause less trouble. > > Sounds interesting, that would separate "real" foot path from the current > path mess. > > However the big question would be then how to im

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

Javbw > On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I thought "anchor stores" are dedicated areas in malls and shopping centers, > not buildings on its own (i.e. the tag would be building:part in this case) Technically, the "anchor" is the large important tenant that takes

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 09:56:22PM +0900, John Willis wrote: > > Those ways should be mapped and rendered differently. Which is why we have > track. We need trail too. > > That abandoned "trunk road" in Box Canyon in the desert sure as hell isn't a > sidewalk. isn't that a track? Richard _

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 07:05:52PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:52:17 +0200 > Anders Fougner wrote: > > > Den 28.08.15 16.56, skrev Mateusz Konieczny: > > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:15:56 +0200 > > > Anders Fougner wrote: > > > > > >> So we should consider replacing the

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

> On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > supermarkets have different requirements than electronics stores, e.g. > because they have big refrigeration storage areas (with good insulation). > Yes, you could use them for other purposes, but it typically won't be cost > e

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:39:45 +0200 Richard wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 07:05:52PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:52:17 +0200 > > Anders Fougner wrote: > > > > > Den 28.08.15 16.56, skrev Mateusz Konieczny: > > > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:15:56 +0200 > > > > Ander

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:21:12 +0200 Ruben Maes wrote: > Friday 28 August 2015 19:05:52, Mateusz Konieczny: > > For example iD - is it clearly > > indicating that it is about legal status? I am also regularly > > checking situation in my region and fixing new problem. > > In English it's called "A

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

> On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:53 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > I'm not sure those are or have to be "landuses ", eg the gated community is a > settlement or settlement part. A group of separate buildings that make up an apartment complex is a single named Landuse=residential This is a

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

> On Aug 29, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Richard wrote: > > isn't that a track? In 1847 it was the first trunk road into San Diego from the east. Then, as other roads were built and traffic dwindled away, it lost importance and grade down to a track, and finally S2 was built to replace it turned int

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015, Richard wrote: > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:09:44AM +0300, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Warin wrote: > > > > > > > On 28/08/2015 9:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion is to n

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

sent from a phone > Am 29.08.2015 um 16:07 schrieb John Willis : > > Without the landuse to tie them together, thy are just buildings next to each > other. often gated communities are settlements or parts of them (e.g. neighbourhood ) but in other cases they are just a bunch of buildings

[Tagging] Bitcoin EmBassy is place_of_worship???

I was higly surprised to see the Bitcoin emBassy being tagged with: amenity=place_of_worship. See for yourself: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2839982498 Nowhere in the wiki do I find one single word that would allow for this strange combinatio

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin EmBassy is place_of_worship???

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015, at 02:28 PM, Marc Zoutendijk wrote: > I was higly surprised to see the Bitcoin emBassy being tagged with: > amenity=place_of_worship. > > See for yourself: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2839982498 > > > Nowhere in the wiki

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

Javbw > On Aug 30, 2015, at 4:17 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > suggests a proper entity. Landuse can be seen as a propery, I wouldn't use it > to constitute objects on their own. A mall sits on one named landuse=retail. A factory sits on landuse=industrial. A company HQ sits on a si

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

On 29/08/2015 10:41 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 29.08.2015 um 01:05 schrieb John Willis : There is a mall in Tokyo with a train station going through it, with a gigantic ferris wheel on top, with a roller coaster going through the center of the ferris wheel! It is a

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

On 30/08/2015 9:27 AM, John Willis wrote: Why do we keep coming back to the rejection of this simple and consistent idea? Why do people insist on making it difficult, counter-intuitive, and strange? I think they are attached to their past practices and knowledge. It is very much like a chang