Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 10/06/2015 4:44 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Here's a writeup on a "Duck" tag for this feature: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station The name works well for the intended use. However it limits the use of the tag. For example .. a tourist might be able t

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

> > > tie-off points for leashes to leave a dog unattended for a short time Today I was out biking and I found one of the hooks for dog leashes. The name used on the pole was “lead hook”. It was for leaving your dog outside a convenience store while you went in to get a drink on your dog wa

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-06-10 10:03 GMT+02:00 johnw : > > They are made by a company called sunpole, and I have been seeing them > installed at a lot of newer buildings all over my region lately, from > stores to service areas on the tollway. > > some are wall mounted, others on prefab poles, like in the picture. >

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

On Wed Jun 10 09:32:26 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I prefer leash_anchor over lead_hook because it is more generic and easier > to understand. > Leash is AE, lead is BE. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

> Am 10.06.2015 um 01:51 schrieb John Willis : > > The name for them is revenue_stamp > > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_stamp > this article names tax stamp and fiscal stamp as synonyms in the first sentence > > It is also proof that a fee has been paid (you have the stamp!)

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:05:33AM +1000, Warin wrote: > On 9/06/2015 11:27 PM, Richard wrote: > > > > >yes, that is logical. It would require adding the information whether it is > >right or left from the center of the road and renderers and other tools > >learning how to cope with it. > > > >Do

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

Am 10.06.2015 um 11:01 schrieb p...@trigpoint.me.uk: >> I prefer leash_anchor over lead_hook because it is more generic and easier >> to understand. > Leash is AE, lead is BE. thanks for pointing this out. Unfortunately, lead is also a material (Pb), an indication, a clue, etc while leash i

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

Tax stamps are for any stamp or seal for which a tax is paid. Most commonly, you find tax stamps on license plates and cigarette packs (California has cool looking bear shaped stamps on their packs). On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, wrote: > On Tue Jun 9 16:06:40 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoe

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

>From experience, the opposite isn't true; Oregon expects you to explicitly have an Oregon license plate or trip permit (a big reason why the first exit in Oregon on all four freeways is "DMV & DOT Permits". This seems to only be enforced in a rather haphazard way that's just ripe for police abuse

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 12:42 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > Am 10.06.2015 um 11:01 schrieb p...@trigpoint.me.uk: > > >> I prefer leash_anchor over lead_hook because it is more generic and easier > >> to understand. > > Leash is AE, lead is BE. > > > thanks for pointing this out. Unf

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

> On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > this article names tax stamp and fiscal stamp as synonyms in the first > sentence > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_stamp > Title says it all. __

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

> On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > A > hook wouldn't be very secure. The double hook in the picture would only let the dog off if the leash handle were opened and pulled upwards. Which is not really gonna happen with a dog. They did have some spring, closing hooks, but

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:47 AM, wrote: > On Tue Jun 9 13:23:05 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2015-06-09 13:48 GMT+02:00 Philip Barnes : > > > > > > While I agree that fueling only is minimum service and not full > > > > service, around here (Europe) minimum service is always cheap

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:38 PM, John Willis wrote: > > > > On Jun 9, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > P brands (Arco, Amoco, BP, Aral, am/pm, Wild Bean) usually make you go > inside anyway and don't let you pay at the pump. > > A long time ago the self pumps were crap - but i have n

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

> On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> The name for them is revenue_stamp >> >> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_stamp >> >> > > > > this article names tax stamp and fiscal stamp as synonyms in the first > sen

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 01:26 +0200, Andreas Goss wrote: > Don't know why people are so keen on subtags on this one. Nobody would > tag a fastfood restaurant buildng=yes + food=burgers. But we do: building=yes amenity=fast_food cuisine=burger -- Shawn K. Quinn _

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Donation

On 6/10/15 04:23 , Warin wrote: And then I don't understand why you do donation=blood, but then blood:plasma=, blood:whole= etc. Why not donation:blood=yes? A person cannot donate blood plasma .. they donate whole blood and the plasma is separated out later? So the donation is blood, what ge

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

> On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Selective blindness? California's not exactly been an exception when I've > been there. Lived there until I was 32, and pumped enough gas just for myself to drive 300,000 miles. Yea, there are shitty stations, but usually that is a fu

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 01:26 +0200, Andreas Goss wrote: Don't know why people are so keen on subtags on this one. Nobody would tag a fastfood restaurant buildng=yes + food=burgers. But we do: building=yes amenity=fast_food cuisine=burger Except you put in a amenity=fast_food which specifies

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

I see the occasional stain at a gas station that might be spilled gasoline, but it tends to be a few drops. I have occasionally had the filler hose drip a drop or two as I am replacing it on the pump. The only time I have ever encountered a large-scale spill was the time, years ago, that some

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

Sometimes there are buildings on bridges. Is there a "correct" way to tag the bridge / the building on the bridge? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4279571 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulteney_Bridge 2015-06-10 12:36 GMT+02:00 Richard : > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:05:33AM +1000, Warin wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-10 18:03 GMT+02:00 Swen Wacker : > Sometimes there are buildings on bridges. Is there a "correct" way to tag > the bridge / the building on the bridge? there is man_made=bridge to map the bridge, which is used ~3300 times. It was unanimously voted with 27 votes last year: http://wiki.op

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/06/2015 4:44 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station >> > The name works well for the intended use. > > However it limits the use of the tag. > For

[Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

The prior thread on this subject was hijacked to discuss "dog parking areas". I am seeking comments on tagging for pet relief areas: areas specifically designated for pet and service animals to go to the toilet during travel. One possible tagging http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/346028062#map=19/

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 2015-06-10 07:44, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Here's a writeup on a "Duck" tag for this feature: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3539479319/history I strongly feel that amenity=charging_station is fully entrenched as a

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 18:07 +0100, Craig Wallace wrote: > > > Why does everything have to be a 'station'? A station is a place > where > trains stop, not where you plug your phone in. Plus it makes the tag > unnecessarily verbose, and more prone to errors. > Simpler to just tag amenity=device_

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 07:15 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:47 AM, wrote: > > > > > > > > Why worry, the ANPR cameras will get you anyway. > I'd honestly be surprised if those are widely employed, because > they're damn near useless. There's well over 200 varieties

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

From my experience in the USA, prepay is only available by going inside and paying the clerk. If it turns out you didn't have enough room in your fuel tank for the amount you prepaid for, you go inside a second time and get a refund. The majority of self-service stations now require that you eit

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 13:02 -0500, John Eldredge wrote: > From my experience in the USA, prepay is only available by going inside and > paying the clerk. If it turns out you didn't have enough room in your fuel > tank for the amount you prepaid for, you go inside a second time and get a > refund

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > +1 > I would expect an available mains socket is the norm, a USB socket is > rather fragile for public use. There are tens of thousands of public USB sockets. Vendors in China make special rugged sockets just for this. Plus, if you take t

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

A tag is needed for"inside secure area" or not ideas? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

> On Jun 11, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > The only stations I know of that still do post-pay are RaceWay stations > (or it might have been RaceTrac, it's been a while) and those require > you to swipe a (store-issued) ID card at the pump first. In Japan, a lot of the "automated"

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Donation

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. Replied inline below. 2015-06-10 1:58 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss : > Honestly I don't think it's such a good idea to start voting 1 year later > when there wasn't an ongoing discussion. > > > I'm not sure about amenity=donation when some things are very different. >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Donation

Replied inline below. 2015-06-10 6:52 GMT+02:00 Holger Jeromin : > Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Wrote > in message: > >> Ok .. I'm wrong there.. you can donate just blood plasma. >> >> Not normal practice here for donations. A normal blood donation is >> whole blood. >> >> But ma

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Donation

Maybe healthcare=blood_donation would be better? Less "generic-but-not-actually-generic", and a clear description of what it is. I'm thinking about aborting the proposal and re-writing it with healthcare=blood_donation, and abandoning the facility=mobile/dedicated/hospital tag, but I would like to

Re: [Tagging] Dog Anchor Point (was"Pet Relief Areas")

I don't care what we call it, as long as we don't use the word "parking" in the name. I its cute and all ("dog parking!") but i really want to keep it away from the parking amenity for transportation devices (even if that is a horse). Tagging the hardware Leash_anchor Some of them are clip

[Tagging] Off Topic: alignment point help

I know this is off-topic, but I am using iD, and I need an alignment point set from someone who uses JSOM and has automatic map offset correction setup. The people I usually ask have been away from OSM for over a month, and I don’t know who else to ask for this small favor. http://www.openstr

[Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

What kind of tagging would work for hand operated public bike pumps? Something likely to meet the needs of data consumers, and thus eventually be processed and rendered? See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcompressed_air https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3585224997/history http:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

Maybe it can be tagged with a variant of this? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station bicycle_repair_station:pump=yes bicycle_repair_station:tools=no Or something. Javbw > On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > What kind of tagging would work

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Donation

On 11/06/2015 7:35 AM, Ruben Maes wrote: In Belgium there are places where a mobile blood collection team visits regularly[2]. I've mapped an example[3]. [3] https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3586748252 ___ a) Is it there all the time? The present

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 11/06/2015 2:38 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: On 10/06/2015 4:44 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station The name

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

On 11/06/2015 6:17 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: A tag is needed for"inside secure area" or not ideas? Humm ... 'inside'? As in inside a building? Would not that be evident by the building being mapped too? 'secure area'? If 'inside' then what more security that the walls, door/s window/s?

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 11/06/2015 6:17 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: >> A tag is needed for"inside secure area" or not ideas? > > Humm ... > 'inside'? > As in inside a building? Would not that be evident by the building be

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/06/2015 6:17 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> A tag is needed for"inside secure area" or not ideas? >> >> > Humm ... > 'inside'? > As in inside a building? Would not that be evident by the building being > mapped too?

Re: [Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:37 PM, John Willis wrote: > Maybe it can be tagged with a variant of this? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station > bicycle_repair_station:pump=yes > bicycle_repair_station:tools=no > The question is which of these tags can stand as th

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

One could tag every power outlet that seems to be in a public space. For many years I charged my laptop at > airports by finding the places the cleaning crew plugged in their vacuum > cleaners. But that sort of accidental > charging station is of a different character to a designated place. >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Donation

My experience as an American has been that a "blood bank" is a storage location rather than a donation point, although there is no particular reasons both functions can't be under one roof. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. H

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

On 11/06/2015 10:11 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: On 11/06/2015 6:17 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: A tag is needed for"inside secure area" or not ideas? Humm ... 'inside'?

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

> On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > But Aeroway=secure_area might be a usefull property tag to have ? > Would have applicatrion to those shops 'inside' the 'secure area'. This would be a very good attribute to a node dropped on a terminal building. Bein

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:28 PM, johnw wrote: > > On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > But Aeroway=secure_area might be a usefull property tag to have ? > Would have applicatrion to those shops 'inside' the 'secure area'. > > > This would be a very good attribut

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

> > > It should be flexible enough to accommodate more than one type of secure: > > aeroway_security=sterile:international_transit aeroway_security=sterile:international_arrivals aeroway_security=sterile:international_departure > aeroway_security=sterile:domestic aeroway_security=sterile:dom

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

I would like to make it a generic tag for many places, as pet relief areas show up in other places besides airports, just like prayer rooms, immigration, and security checkpoints. The ones I would like to map are on tollway service areas. Javbw > On Jun 11, 2015, at 1:47 AM, Bryce Nesbitt

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

On 11/06/2015 1:54 PM, johnw wrote: It should be flexible enough to accommodate more than one type of secure: aeroway_security=sterile:international_transit aeroway_security=sterile:international_arrivals aeroway_security=sterile:international_departure aeroway_security=sterile:domestic

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > The 'sterile' I think is redundant. > > The sterile is *not* redundant, it's a grouping classifier. Very important, given the blizzard of motley tags that may follow it. aeroway_security=sida:xx aeroway_security