Re: [Tagging] access=student and entrance=inter-building: comments?

2015-06-08 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > 1) > Access=student - access designated for students of a school/facility, > similar to customers of a shop or visitors of a facility. Does not imply > age or gender, though it is used at mostly at K-12 facilities. For use > with entrance=* or possibly with certain school amenities (Locker

Re: [Tagging] access=student and entrance=inter-building: comments?

2015-06-08 Thread johnw
> On Jun 8, 2015, at 5:50 PM, Dominik George wrote: > > Hi, > >> 1) >> Access=student - access designated for students of a school/facility, >> similar to customers of a shop or visitors of a facility. Does not imply >> age or gender, though it is used at mostly at K-12 facilities. For use >>

Re: [Tagging] access=student and entrance=inter-building: comments?

2015-06-08 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > I guess I need a solution for the path access too - because > access=private also seems an incorrect label - or would both be > covered by access=inder-building ? just out of curiosity, what would happen if you *did* use it as an entrance *before* using the main entrance? -nik signature

[Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread Richard
Hi, quite often there are node-type objects on bridges or in tunnels. What to do with them? Tunnel or bridge tags are dfined only for ways. Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > quite often there are node-type objects on bridges or in tunnels. > > What to do with them? Tunnel or bridge tags are dfined only for > ways. please be a bit more specific on what you mean. Do you mean… a) … a node on a way that is tagged as tunnel or bridge, or b) … a node that is itse

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015, Dominik George wrote: > > quite often there are node-type objects on bridges or in tunnels. > > > > What to do with them? Tunnel or bridge tags are dfined only for > > ways. > > please be a bit more specific on what you mean. Do you mean… > > a) … a node on a way that is ta

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread Dominik George
>>> quite often there are node-type objects on bridges or in tunnels. >>> >>> What to do with them? Tunnel or bridge tags are dfined only for >>> ways. >> >> please be a bit more specific on what you mean. Do you mean… >> >> a) … a node on a way that is tagged as tunnel or bridge, or >> b) … a no

Re: [Tagging] access=student and entrance=inter-building: comments?

2015-06-08 Thread John Willis
> On Jun 8, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Dominik George wrote: > > Hi, > >> I guess I need a solution for the path access too - because >> access=private also seems an incorrect label - or would both be >> covered by access=inder-building ? > > just out of curiosity, what would happen if you *did* use it

Re: [Tagging] access=student and entrance=inter-building: comments?

2015-06-08 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > I hope that helps a bit. yeah, thanks for the detailed explanation. I learnt a lot about an exciting foreign culture today! As for the tagging, there definitely should be something, and on first glance, I do not see an issue with the access=inter_building idea. -nik signature.asc Desc

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 08.06.2015 um 13:29 schrieb Richard : > > What to do with them? Tunnel or bridge tags are dfined only for > ways. layer tags should match, but I don't see a problem in stating with attributes for nodes that they are in a tunnel or on a bridge just like we do for ways cheers Martin _

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread Richard
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 01:57:52PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > Ah. You think the OP is talking about *real-world* objects and how to > tag them. I was thinking they are talking about bugs in the map ;). yes, I was talking about real world objects that are represented as nodes in OSM > In that

[Tagging] location=roof ?

2015-06-08 Thread Richard
Hi, someone added location=roof to the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:location&diff=1083742&oldid=997238 somehow this does not seem to fit well with the other values, what are the opinions on that? Richard ___ Tagging mail

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015, Richard wrote: > On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 01:57:52PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > > > In that case, I believe the layer=* tag should be used instead, giving > > the object the same layer as the tunnel or bridge. > > not such a good solution. > > For real-world-node-objects

Re: [Tagging] location=roof ?

2015-06-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-06-08 14:39 GMT+02:00 Richard : > someone added location=roof to the wiki > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:location&diff=1083742&oldid=997238 > > somehow this does not seem to fit well with the other values, > what are the opinions on that? > can you explain where you

[Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Andreas Goss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the UK it also describes what it does very well. Maybe without acency? U

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread phil
On Mon Jun 8 15:48:01 2015 GMT+0100, Andreas Goss wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles > > amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency > > Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the U

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2015-06-08 at 16:48 +0200, Andreas Goss wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles > > amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency > > Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the UK

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread phil
On Mon Jun 8 15:48:01 2015 GMT+0100, Andreas Goss wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles > > amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency > > Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the U

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:08 AM, wrote: > On Mon Jun 8 15:48:01 2015 GMT+0100, Andreas Goss wrote: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles >> >> amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency I typically use offi

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread Dave Swarthout
Take a look at this example, the Galata Bridge in Istanbul, Turkey http://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=galata%20bridge#map=19/41.02271/28.97477 The tunnels under the streets are lined with shops on both sides of a wide walkway. It's essentially a mall and all of it is underground. I added a

[Tagging] Grumble about empty "comments" on this list

2015-06-08 Thread John Eldredge
If you want to comment about a message someone else posted, don't simply quote them without adding any comments of your own. We already know what they posted. Empty posts can happen by accident, but some participants of this list are in the habit of posting zero-content "comments" on a daily bas

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Andreas Goss
Maybe something like: office=licensing licensing:vehicle=yes licensing:driver=yes I fell like long term that tag would completely blow up, considering you can get a license for almost everything. And this seems to be a very specific government institution in many countries. In the US, the

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Andreas Goss
Or amenity=licensing, driver=yes, vehicle=yes. This could then expand for other things requiring a license, shotgun=yes? Which I'm not sure is so great as it could expand endlessly. And there is also stuff like motorsport licenses etc. I typically use office=government for this sort of thin

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 08.06.2015 um 16:48 schrieb Andreas Goss : > > Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the UK it also > describes what it does very well. Maybe without acency? Using + isn't a good > idea, right? > > amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing > > Or is there a more general ter

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 08.06.2015 um 18:33 schrieb Andreas Goss : >>> This could then expand for other things requiring a license, shotgun=yes? > > Which I'm not sure is so great as it could expand endlessly. And there is > also stuff like motorsport licenses etc. +1, and the tagging with shotgun=yes is way t

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-06-08 13:29, Richard wrote : Hi, quite often there are node-type objects on bridges or in tunnels. What to do with them? Tunnel or bridge tags are dfined only for ways. In my mind: bridges are piece of concrete below the roads (tarmac) and

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 08.06.2015 um 19:10 schrieb André Pirard : > > In my mind:. level or layer? Usually you don't have to add layer tags to rivers and streams when they cross a bridge or a tunnel. Typically we do not map any bridges or tunnels explicitly but only state that something else like a roa

[Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

2015-06-08 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
I would like to propose that the tag full_service=yes be used to tag gas stations that are full serve (i.e. an attendant pumps gas, like all gas stations in New Jersey and Oregon). The tag self_service=yes is already used for gas stations, but some gas stations are both self serve and full serve a

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

2015-06-08 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2015-06-08 at 13:49 -0400, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: > I would like to propose that the tag full_service=yes be used to tag > gas stations that are full serve (i.e. an attendant pumps gas, like > all gas stations in New Jersey and Oregon). > > The tag self_service=yes is already used for gas

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 69, Issue 38

2015-06-08 Thread EthnicFood IsGreat
> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 15:48:56 +0200 > From: Martin Koppenhoefer > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] location=roof ? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > 2015-06-08 14:39 GMT+02:00 Richard : > >> someone added

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Andreas Goss
I believe we have a huge gap at tags for government agencies. We could start drafting a system with subtags, eg a tag that says a place is a government agency, a subtag for the administration level (eg municipal, regional, national, could maybe be the same as admin_level?), more subtags for the

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 08.06.2015 16:48, Andreas Goss wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency office=government name=Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency short_name=DVLA > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles office=government name=Massachusetts Registry of Mo

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
These are very specific government agencies. This may be a place where regionally specific tags work best. Maybe pretty it up with a namespace. office=goverment admin_level=4 office:type:california=DMV office=goverment admin_level=4 office:type:massachusetts=RMV name=Massachusetts

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread johnw
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > There's a whole set of assumptions about each type of goverment office that > would be impossible to > consistently capture with generic tags. Here the "Duck" of duck typing says > call it by whatever it is known locally. > I think ther