Re: [Tagging] proposal - camp_site=

2015-04-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 21.04.2015 um 00:27 schrieb David Bannon : > > Dave, do you think that the characteristics of 'backcountry' overlap > with the more generic 'basic' ? isn't this something describing the general context rather than a particular attribute to a distinct feature? Do these have common prope

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 21.04.2015 um 07:22 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt : > > I think ref has a different meaning. Imagine you imported a park service > database of pitches, each might > have a ref different from the pitch number known to the public: IMHO the ref should be the publicly known code and other, extern

Re: [Tagging] Way inside riverbank

2015-04-21 Thread Richard Z.
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 06:31:23PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2015-04-20 18:14 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout : > > > IMO you guys are kidding yourselves if you think most mappers actually > > measure the depth of rivers before drawing in the "main stream" > > > > yes, it is not the typical

Re: [Tagging] proposal - camp_site=

2015-04-21 Thread Dave Swarthout
Would it not be ok to say (eg) - tourism=camp_site camp_site=basic backcountry=yes That's exactly what I was proposing. It isn't a tag describing the amenities of the camp so much as to indicate that it is a certain type of camp, one not accessible by vehcles. In New Zealand I believe these would

Re: [Tagging] Outdoor DSLAM

2015-04-21 Thread François Lacombe
Hello, That's a nice question My suggestion : man_made=street_cabinet (for the enclosing cabinet) street_cabinet=telecom (indicates the type of stuff hosted telecom=dslam (It's a DSLAM) location=outdoor (It is actually outdoor) medium=copper (Land lines linked to it are made of copper). I don't

[Tagging] electric zigarrettes

2015-04-21 Thread Thorsten Alge
Hi, is there a tag to express that the use of electronic cigarettes is permitted at a location? If not I'd like to suggest the use ecigarette=* or vaporizing=* with the same values as smoking=*. Opinions? Thorsten ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@open

Re: [Tagging] Outdoor DSLAM

2015-04-21 Thread Andreas Labres
> location=outdoor (It is actually outdoor) This doesn't make sense to me. The location is given by the coordinates. If those coordinates are within an area building=yes can be determined if necessary. But "Outdoor DSLAM" is a fixed term (AFAICT) for this FTTC cabinets. Maybe street_cabinet=FTTC

[Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
JOSM's validator presently complains if any "addr" tags are on a "highway". The code note says the author wanted to catch highway=residential / addr:postcode type tagging. But it also complains on this tagging: highway=residential addr:interpolation=all addr:housenumber=100-500 Which

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The rendering has a lot of influence here. For better or worse, those using addr:housenumber are rewarded with a pleasing osm-carto result. --- ref=42 name=42 addr:unit=42 addr:housenumber=42 pitch=42 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@ope

Re: [Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-21 Thread fly
Are there addresses on both side of the street ? Think it is wrong tagging as addr:interpolation=* should be on separate way(s) on one or both side(s) of the street and the first plus the last node get the addr:housenumber=*. cu fly Am 21.04.2015 um 19:25 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: > JOSM's validat

Re: [Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-21 Thread Mike Thompson
I think this type of information has value. Even if every building on the street also has its own address, this allows an application to find the approximate location of an address for a building that at the time of the survey had not been built. The necessary information can often be found on st

Re: [Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:40 AM, fly wrote: > Are there addresses on both side of the street ? > In this case, the arrangement is unknown. Each campground loop road is marked only with a range (e.g. pitches numbered 51-103). While I could tag the sign ("Sites 51-103"), tagging the way gives mor

Re: [Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/9811 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:25:00 -0700 Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > JOSM's validator presently complains if any "addr" tags are on a > "highway". The code > note says the author wanted to catch highway=residential / > addr:postcode type tagging. > > But it also complains on this tagging: > >highway=

Re: [Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I think it is not the best idea, other people may need to split road - > and as result multiple ways will have "addr:housenumber=100-500". > > Yes, that's an issue. So is doubling the way sharing nodes. And also creating a parallel way c

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 21.04.2015 um 19:29 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt : > > The rendering has a lot of influence here. > For better or worse, those using addr:housenumber are rewarded with a > pleasing osm-carto result. if thats the only thing you're interested in you can also tag ref=42 highway=unclassified (on

Re: [Tagging] electric zigarrettes

2015-04-21 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 21/04/2015, Thorsten Alge wrote: > is there a tag to express that the use of electronic cigarettes is > permitted at a location? If not I'd like to suggest the use ecigarette=* > or vaporizing=* with the same values as smoking=*. I've never seen a place that permitted one type of smoking but n

Re: [Tagging] electric zigarrettes

2015-04-21 Thread SomeoneElse
On 21/04/2015 21:47, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 21/04/2015, Thorsten Alge wrote: is there a tag to express that the use of electronic cigarettes is permitted at a location? If not I'd like to suggest the use ecigarette=* or vaporizing=* with the same values as smoking=*. I've never seen a pla

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > if thats the only thing you're interested in you can also tag > ref=42 > highway=unclassified > (on a node) > ;-) > gives you even a bold font... The fact that rendering on osm-carto is so far behind tagging *is* an issue. But

Re: [Tagging] electric zigarrettes

2015-04-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The smoking restriction page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Asmoking Needs updating. Nicotine vaporizing sticks rules may follow that of traditional smoking, or not. The only combo that probably does not exist is banning vaporizing sticks while permitting burning sticks. __

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-21 Thread David Bannon
On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 14:45 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: >... > The fact that rendering on osm-carto is so far behind tagging is an > issue. > Indeed. > But treating the campsite like a building, and the pitches like > apartments, makes a lot of logical sense. I don't see any theoretical issue w

Re: [Tagging] electric zigarrettes

2015-04-21 Thread Thorsten Alge
I stumbled upon it a few weeks ago. In a restaurant were smoking is only allowed outdoors vaporizing is allowed indoors. I asked in a few other restaurants and it's the same there. On 2015-04-21 22:47, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > On 21/04/2015, Thorsten Alge wrote: >> is there a tag to express tha