[Tagging] Wiki page "Vehicle types"

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! I just stumbled upon this page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vehicle_types What is this page? A proposal or a should it be a complete list of vehicle types? Anyone ever heard about the tag "automobile"? Or "animal_drawn"? In my opinion this page should either be updated or - better -

Re: [Tagging] Wiki page "Vehicle types"

2015-03-31 Thread Marc Gemis
According to the history from September 2007 "New page: ==Proposal== A standard list of abbreviations for vehicle types, to be used in any tagging schemes whose value changes depending on the vehicle used to visit them ==Examples== * access:.." +1 on deleting it regards On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at

Re: [Tagging] volcanic features proposal

2015-03-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
I like the proposal, and would vote for it. uto, 31. ožu 2015. 00:55 Richard Z. je napisao: > > I have lifted the scheme originally proposed by Mike to > a proposal page, did not have time for details yet. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Volcanic_features > > Richard > >

Re: [Tagging] Micro- and macromapping with area=*

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-31 0:37 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć : > > OSM was started as a middle-scale map of a big European city, hence: > > 1. Highways were meant to be just crossing lines from GPS (=just routing > and macro-to-middle-scale rendering). > +1, and this hasn't changed. area:highway is a completely differe

Re: [Tagging] Wiki page "Vehicle types"

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-31 9:40 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > +1 on deleting it +1, seems the access page is documenting better what we do use. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging method of amenities at camp_sites

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-31 8:08 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout : > amenity=toilets;drinking_water > fee=no > opening_hours=24/7 > toilets:position=seated;urinal > > Yes, good information. There is much ambiguity in that example if the > tagging is not done carefully and properly. +1, often mappers use semikolon sepa

Re: [Tagging] recommend tagging of volcanos as ways rather than nodes

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-30 18:58 GMT+02:00 Bryce Nesbitt : > At a first level approximation, a volcano is a peak. Even on the caldera > rim there's still a high point, and that's the peak yes, but the natural=volcano page states that you shouldn't use this peak point, you should rather "Place [the node] as cl

Re: [Tagging] recommend tagging of volcanos as ways rather than nodes

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-31 0:14 GMT+02:00 John Willis : > while some of them are iconic cones,(Fuji), and some are shields which are > very flat (Vesuvius), sorry for picking this, because I am aware this was not the main content of your message, still as living personally in relative proximity to the Vesuvius

Re: [Tagging] recommend tagging of volcanos as ways rather than nodes

2015-03-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
Nominatim heavily uses the Wikipedia tag to decide which search result to put in front. So if you write "Paris" in the search box, Paris, Texas is not going to be the first result. They look at the length of the article, number of translated articles, or something like that. I see no reason rendere

Re: [Tagging] Micro- and macromapping with area=*

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 31.03.2015 10:18, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): I have for long been promoting a clearer approach for this kind of mess, and I agree that there would be need to implement some changes. While my propositions are much more than this (I'd like to fix more fundamental issues), I'm happy

Re: [Tagging] [OT] Licensing of information from websites

2015-03-31 Thread Andrew Guertin
I wonder that nobody so far did spell out a warning about adding information from websites. The simple key website=* is ok, but every information like address, prizes and all the amenities is most of the time not usable due to license problems. cu fly I'm pushing this offtopic and this discussi

Re: [Tagging] [OT] Licensing of information from websites

2015-03-31 Thread Dan S
2015-03-31 12:51 GMT+01:00 Andrew Guertin : >> I wonder that nobody so far did spell out a warning about adding >> information from websites. The simple key website=* is ok, but every >> information like address, prizes and all the amenities is most of the >> time not usable due to license problems

Re: [Tagging] [OT] Licensing of information from websites

2015-03-31 Thread Hans De Kryger
On Mar 31, 2015 4:55 AM, "Andrew Guertin" wrote: >> >> I wonder that nobody so far did spell out a warning about adding >> information from websites. The simple key website=* is ok, but every >> information like address, prizes and all the amenities is most of the >> time not usable due to license

Re: [Tagging] Wiki page "Vehicle types"

2015-03-31 Thread Volker Schmidt
+1 for deleting (thanks, Martin V, for the replay on the lanes business) Volker On 31 March 2015 at 10:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2015-03-31 9:40 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > >> +1 on deleting it > > > > > +1, seems the access page is documenting better what we do use. > > Cheers, > Martin >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting camp_type=*

2015-03-31 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Jan van Bekkum wrote: Not sure about the typo : is it "non-designated" or "non_designated" ? Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] volcanic features proposal

2015-03-31 Thread Richard Z.
having a second look at it - geological=volcanic_lava_channel — way — lava flowing in a defined direction for wide lava channels it would be usefull to define the shape somehow? Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://l

Re: [Tagging] [OT] Licensing of information from websites

2015-03-31 Thread fly
Am 31.03.2015 um 13:59 schrieb Dan S: > 2015-03-31 12:51 GMT+01:00 Andrew Guertin : >>> I wonder that nobody so far did spell out a warning about adding >>> information from websites. The simple key website=* is ok, but every >>> information like address, prizes and all the amenities is most of the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting camp_type=*

2015-03-31 Thread Jan van Bekkum
Corrected where applicable On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:33 PM Pieren wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Jan van Bekkum > wrote: > > > Not sure about the typo : is it "non-designated" or "non_designated" ? > > Pieren > > ___ > Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] RFC - proposal page for camp_site=

2015-03-31 Thread Jan van Bekkum
Does any formal definition of a postfix to a key exist? A prefix in prefix:key like in abandoned:shop tells something about the state for the key. In a proposal like camp_site:restaurant=yes it means that restaurant belongs to camping (a kind of site relation in a line). In practice in this exam

Re: [Tagging] recommend tagging of volcanos as ways rather than nodes

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 31.03.2015 11:22, Janko Mihelić napisał(a): Nominatim heavily uses the Wikipedia tag to decide which search result to put in front. So if you write "Paris" in the search box, Paris, Texas is not going to be the first result. They look at the length of the article, number of translated arti

Re: [Tagging] Micro- and macromapping with area=*

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 31.03.2015 um 12:52 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > So we have a simple hierarchy: > > landuse (implies)=> landcover no, it doesn't imply > > but you have to know there is a "use" at all to tag it as "landuse". Since > the trees may not be used (like in natural=wood), your statement is fa

Re: [Tagging] Micro- and macromapping with area=*

2015-03-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
Among other reasons, a managed forest, if it stops being actively managed, will gradually revert over time into a wild woodland, as other species start moving back in. On March 31, 2015 5:16:10 PM CDT, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > Am 31.03.2015 um 12:52 schrieb Daniel Koć : > >

Re: [Tagging] recommend tagging of volcanos as ways rather than nodes

2015-03-31 Thread John Willis
Mt Fuji is a very special volcano. I should have used another example, but everyone knows Fuji as a "cone". Fuji is a stratovolcano on top of a shield volcano, hence the similar sloping sides at the bottom. However, the cone from the halfway point is much steeper. Pic from halfway up. Most of t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Reception Desk

2015-03-31 Thread Warin
Hi, I have taken this back to the Draft status/stage. There is not much of a change to the basic proposal amenity=reception_desk. There is a much more verbose explanation of things .. like what key to use. Summary of voting .. Thank you all for voting. 38 votes is I hope a good representation

Re: [Tagging] recommend tagging of volcanos as ways rather than nodes

2015-03-31 Thread johnw
We have the landmark tag - maybe natural=volcano/peak + landmark gets it’s own rendering terms? There is the “hundred mountains of Japan” list - and 3 mountains in my prefecture are also considered “the three mountains of Gunma” - Akagi is on both. Would that let me claim it is not subjectively

Re: [Tagging] recommend tagging of volcanos as ways rather than nodes

2015-03-31 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > Generally speaking they can, of course, but in case of default osm-carto > rendering there's no chance currently, since Andy is totally opposed to any > subjective measures: > However if we can find some - more or less - objective features, they

Re: [Tagging] Tagging method of amenities at camp_sites

2015-03-31 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > +1, often mappers use semikolon separated lists on the same object for what > should actually be more than one object (in cases where a main tag has > multiple values). This is not working. But it is normally no problem to use > multiva

Re: [Tagging] Wiki page "Vehicle types"

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Vonwald
I labelled the page now for deletion. Thanks for your comments. br, Martin 2015-03-31 15:26 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt : > +1 for deleting > On 31 March 2015 at 10:19, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > 2015-03-31 9:40 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > >> +1 on deleting it > > +1, seems the access page is d