Re: [Tagging] Is what we are doing useful? (OSM.org map case)

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 1:42 AM, André Pirard wrote: > Hi, > > I think that one good way to promote OSM is to teach the general public to > make references to the main Map . > André, This type of discussion does not belong on the tagging mailing list. There is a g

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

What Dave Bannon says is exactly what I have in mind. #6 was intended for parks with larger areas where camping is allowed. I have made a few adaptations to the text to clarify the issue I hadn't thought about it, but we might use the tag camp_site

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

On Sun, 2015-03-22 at 08:02 +, Jan van Bekkum wrote: ... > I hadn't thought about it, but we might use the > tag camp_site=permitted_area as attribute of a country border (like > Sweden) to show that camping is allowed anywhere. > Jan, not sure thats a good idea. Here in Oz, you would not "ca

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

For example in Sweden you are not allowed to camp in view of any home etc. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:22 AM David Bannon wrote: > On Sun, 2015-03-22 at 08:02 +, Jan van Bekkum wrote: > ... > > > I hadn't thought about it, but we might use the > > tag camp_site=permitted_area as attribute of

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

Dave S, think you missed the list On Sun, 2015-03-22 at 09:19 +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Okay then, Your idea is to define the campgrounds inside of national > and state parks as commercial ones? Well, its more a case of are you paying to camp there ? And are you being provided with ext

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

I was trying to do as Richard suggested, that is, trim the other replies off the message. Screwed that up. It's not the definition I object to, it's the use of the term commercial. Regardless of the quacking like a duck comparison, the national, state, and forest service campgrounds are simply not

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

If I would have to choose between the options I would go for full_service, but I leave this to the native speakers. If I get the same service and pay the same for a state run campground as for a privately run one it can be called commercial. Is it a problem if tourism=camp_site wouldn't get the at

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

Am 21.03.2015 um 18:43 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: >> Am 21.03.2015 um 08:54 schrieb Michael Reichert : >> >> I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, >> it's best to move the page to Key:smoking. > > +1 +1 but please copy and archive the proposal fly __

Re: [Tagging] Feature Propsal - RFC - Generalized Overhead Wire Mapping - utility_wires=overhead/underground

Am 18.03.2015 um 05:08 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: > In celebration of: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/3D-mapland > I offer to the tagging discussion: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Quickly_Marking_Utility_Wires > A proposal for quickly marking large areas with utility pol

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

Am 19.03.2015 um 17:43 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > 2015-03-19 17:12 GMT+01:00 fly : > >> brand=none or >> no_brand=yes to proper mark the independence. >> > some independent petrol stations are organized in associations and use > these as their brand, see e.g. here: > http://de.wikipedia.org/wi

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

Am 17.03.2015 um 07:26 schrieb John Willis: >> On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> "AKA military installations in certain countries" I would happily map >> military installation in Russia/North Korea/Iran/USA/whatever - >> it is not illegal for me. Maybe they can make law

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

Am 21.03.2015 um 07:43 schrieb Marc Gemis: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> But perhaps it would be more universal to have >> >> built_date=1200 AD >> > > I always thought start_date was used for that. +1 but how to handle buildings which where finis

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

> Am 22.03.2015 um 15:39 schrieb fly : > > but how to handle buildings which where finished after two/three centuries ? start_date according to the wiki is the completion date, or the date when the feature became active. FWIW, buildings very often get extended, changed, even rebuild, espec

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

Argh, let's not invent yet another amenity type for this. Why not tag for the dispenser type? Then you'd still be able to find fuel as an amenity (which is better than nothing if you don't get your preferred dispenser type in most cases) but you could, say, filter for only fuel amenities that hav

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've come across regular filling stations without a roof. Somewhere in > Scotland.. on a Sunday .. no one there but a credit card reader so I could > get fuel. > > Others in Australia .. White Cliffs, Warburton, Docker River

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

On 23/03/2015 1:20 AM, fly wrote: Am 17.03.2015 um 07:26 schrieb John Willis: There was a big bruhaha about any mappers mapping Israeli military installations. They were deleting everything and leaving notes not to map things on that location, if I remember correctly. I don't know the details

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

It's interesting. I hadn't realised it's open-source too, so osm could run its own version of it if we wanted to. Dan 2015-03-20 22:38 GMT+00:00 Kotya Karapetyan : > Dear all, > > In an attempt to find a better tool for our proposal discussions, Loomio has > been mentioned. At the very first glan

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

On Sun, 2015-03-22 at 11:19 +, Jan van Bekkum wrote: > If I would have to choose between the options I would go for > full_service, but I leave this to the native speakers. If I get the > same service and pay the same for a state run campground as for a > privately run one it can be called comm

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

> Nobody's proposing another amenity tag. My thrust here is to gather > opinions about adding another shop key, this one a shop for petrol (gas, > gasohol, etc.). The places I have in mind are not the same as standard > fueling places, tagged amenity=fuel, in fact, I wish them to be tagged > differ

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

I'll second the notion that we need something better than the current system. It is an anachronism! My first look at Loomio was good, I was impressed, but my immediate thought was, it'll never get accepted into OSM On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Dan S wrote: > It's interesting. I hadn't reali

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

> On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > > > Nobody's proposing another amenity tag. My thrust here is to gather opinions > about adding another shop key, this one a shop for petrol (gas, gasohol, > etc.). The places I have in mind are not the same as standard fueling places

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

Moved http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:smoking Left for now http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dsmoking_area There is some divergence between the translations. Tag:amenity%3Dsmoking_area appeared in a unilateral edit on 14 May 2014 by user ArPi with comment "create microwiki": h

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 6:00 AM, fly wrote: > +1 but please copy and archive the proposal I'm pretty sure I screwed up the archive process, despite the template {{Archived proposal}}. Sorry. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://l

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

There is also more risk that fuel sold for cars is more polluted or that water was added. Met vriendelijke groet/with kind regards, *Jan van Bekkum* www.DeEinderVoorbij.nl > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

> On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You can change it .. or make proposals here. Just don't change the existing > values and it should be fine. > I'd think you'd be adding heating oils, propane and kerosene. The wiki entry is uneditable - I’ve edited quite a