[Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I propose to reduce inventing new landuses and start making subcategories whenewer possible. Recently I encountered landuse=plant_nursery, landuse=salt_pond, landuse=greenhouse_horticulture and landuse=mine. I think that all of them are overly specific and should be tagged as subcategories of mor

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 25 Jul 2014 10:20, "Mateusz Konieczny" wrote: > > I propose to reduce inventing new landuses and start making subcategories whenewer possible. I fully agree. The current situation has the disadvantage that the more accurate landuse is tagged, the less renderers there will be that actually ren

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-25 11:16 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > I propose to reduce inventing new landuses and start making subcategories > whenewer possible. > > Recently I encountered landuse=plant_nursery, landuse=salt_pond, > landuse=greenhouse_horticulture and landuse=mine. > > I think that all of them are

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/25/2014 12:33 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > I think that we should define a fixed set of canonical values Now that would be novel. > we map all kinds of highways on a > small fixed set of highway keys That is true but that small set has been determined through evolution and has never

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-25 12:33 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen : > Note that we do the same for highway: we didn't invent a new type > highway=industrial or a new type highway=parking_aisle, because such roads > wouldn't be rendered. Instead, we map all kinds of highways on a small > fixed set of highway keys. I th

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-25 16:28 GMT+02:00 Frederik Ramm : > nobody has the power to define a fixed set of canonical > values for anything. > nobody besides the style maintainers of the main mapnik style ;-) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://l

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Zecke
Am 25.07.2014 16:28, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: I partly agree. plant_nursery could indeed become a subtag of farmland, as could be greenhouse horticulture, but I do agree less for mining and salt_pond. landuse=mine is in line with landuse=quarry (for open pit mining it might be a subgroup o

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
> In case of surface mining however it is a characteristic of its own, which > comes close to quarry. However furthermore I would prefer to have it the > other way round, quarry being a special case of surface_mining: > > landuse=surface_mining > resource=limestone, marble, sand (or whatever) > (wh

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-25 17:02 GMT+02:00 Zecke : > landuse=mine is an undefined Tag, so it is not clear what is meant here. > you mean it could be also landuse=yours? ;-) > In case of underground mining I would agree to have it being a subtag of > landuse=industrial, as the surface installations could be o

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-25 3:33 GMT+02:00 johnw : > But for a majority of the buildings I'm mapping here in rural/"suburban" > Japan, there isn't as much mixed use or repurposed use as you would imagine > - most homes are purpose-built 2 story, single family detached homes with a > wall around them. It is very e

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2014-07-25 at 16:28 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-07-25 11:16 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > I propose to reduce inventing new landuses and start making > subcategories whenewer possible. > > Recently I encountered landuse=plant_nursery, >

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-25 Thread John Packer
I don't know how common this practice is, but sometimes I see things like landuse=commercial and landuse=residential applied to a relatively large area. 2014-07-25 13:38 GMT-03:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2014-07-25 3:33 GMT+02:00 johnw : > > But for a majority of the buildings I'm mapping here

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-25 18:44 GMT+02:00 Philip Barnes : > In most cases I would go for retail for plant nurseries, they are > generally places that you go to buy plants for the garden. > > > good point, the ones I know have retail and other (not generally accessible, bigger) areas, it could be split. cheers

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-25 Thread fly
Am 25.07.2014 18:48, schrieb John Packer: > I don't know how common this practice is, but sometimes I see things > like landuse=commercial and landuse=residential applied to a relatively > large area. Exactly, we should first clarify the proposed use of landuse=*. Is it considered for large areas

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
> In most cases I would go for retail for plant nurseries, they are generally places that you go to buy plants for the garden. > > There are few that do not sell to the public. > > Phil (trigpoint) > Yes, I also tag part accessible to customers as a shop, with landuse=retail. Sometimes there is a

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-25 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPad > On Jul 26, 2014, at 1:38 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > 2014-07-25 3:33 GMT+02:00 johnw : >> But for a majority of the buildings I'm mapping here in rural/"suburban" >> Japan, there isn't as much mixed use or repurposed use as you would imagine >> - most homes a

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
2014-07-25 16:28 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > salt_ponds could also be considered a subtype of farmland (maybe depends > on the case/scale). > Why farmland? For me it seems clearly industrial process, certainly unrelated to growing plants. It is not like salt ponds are plughed. _