Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits, building tags on nodes versus areas

2014-06-05 Thread Tobias Knerr
Am 04.06.2014 22:35, schrieb André Pirard: > Exactly, this and below, my POV. > I even say more: that a shop is an activity more than an object. > Just as an amenity, it takes place in a building or part of it. > But it can be in open air. > > building=yes > shop:fishing=yes > shop:fishing:rod:ren

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-06-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
I agree that unpaved roads need to be rendered differently than paved roads. In wet weather, particularly in areas with clay soil, unpaved roads may be completely impassable. On June 4, 2014 6:22:33 PM CDT, Greg Troxel wrote: > > SomeoneElse writes: > > > Some (but very few) "BOAT"s near me

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-06-05 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 5 June 2014 14:22, John F. Eldredge wrote: > I agree that unpaved roads need to be rendered differently than paved roads. > In wet weather, particularly in areas with clay soil, unpaved roads may be > completely impassable. If you are talking about the rendering on the default map: see also

[Tagging] turning layers off

2014-06-05 Thread Tom Gertin
Is it possible to turn visibility of certain layers or feature types off in OpenStreetMap (Id or JOSM), such as features with a landuse tag? I am having a hard time drawing building polygons inside landuse polygons because the landuse polygons have a colored tint to them. Thanks, Tom G.

Re: [Tagging] turning layers off

2014-06-05 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Yes, in JOSM, you can use the Filters window. -- Matthijs On 5 June 2014 15:46, Tom Gertin wrote: > Is it possible to turn visibility of certain layers or feature types off in > OpenStreetMap (Id or JOSM), such as features with a landuse tag? > > I am having a hard time drawing building polygons

Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits, building tags on nodes versus areas

2014-06-05 Thread Tod Fitch
On Jun 5, 2014, at 3:03 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > Am 04.06.2014 22:35, schrieb André Pirard: > > That's another new tagging system though. And even doing it like this > breaks down when there is more than one shop in the building. > > Therefore I believe that the only really clean solution is to

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-06-05 Thread SomeoneElse
Greg Troxel wrote: I may be alone in thinking this, but I find the legal Right of Way notion to be critical, and an important distinction between highway=unclassified and highway=track or highway=service. Well, ish - but what's important is that all aspects that can be mapped (legal, physical,

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-06-05 Thread Greg Troxel
Sure, I realize I can (with enough spare time) render what I want. The mkgmap style I have does in fact mark dirt roads (by abusing track, as you suggest, which needs fixing), and I'll get around to making osmand show them too. My point was that for almost all map users (in cars or road bikes),

Re: [Tagging] turning layers off

2014-06-05 Thread Dan S
(not a "tagging" question really, but) Top tip: Ctrl-W in JOSM ("wireframe mode") makes areas show as outlines rather than tinted areas. Dan 2014-06-05 15:50 GMT+01:00 Matthijs Melissen : > Yes, in JOSM, you can use the Filters window. > > -- Matthijs > > On 5 June 2014 15:46, Tom Gertin wrote

Re: [Tagging] turning layers off

2014-06-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-05 16:46 GMT+02:00 Tom Gertin : > Is it possible to turn visibility of certain layers or feature types off > in OpenStreetMap (Id or JOSM), such as features with a landuse tag? Alternatively you could change the appearance by customizing the landuse style (e.g. make it more transparent)

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-06-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-05 17:15 GMT+02:00 SomeoneElse : > is something that has the same legal access as an unclassified road > (legally it is a road) but physically it's far from it, hence highway=track. my duck-test would go like this: if a road is serving to connect a place (e.g. a hamlet, village) and is u

Re: [Tagging] turning layers off

2014-06-05 Thread fly
Am 05.06.2014 19:10, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > 2014-06-05 16:46 GMT+02:00 Tom Gertin >: > > Is it possible to turn visibility of certain layers or feature types > off in OpenStreetMap (Id or JOSM), such as features with a landuse tag? > > > > Alternati

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-06-05 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-06-05 17:25 GMT+02:00 Greg Troxel : > > As for style, I mean something as simple as dashed casings when unpaved, > similar to a lot of exiting road maps. I don't think this adds clutter > - there will just be a few pixels missing, and most people will > understand it without even looking tha

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-06-05 Thread Dan S
2014-06-05 21:31 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić : > 2014-06-05 17:25 GMT+02:00 Greg Troxel : >> >> As for style, I mean something as simple as dashed casings when unpaved, >> similar to a lot of exiting road maps. I don't think this adds clutter >> - there will just be a few pixels missing, and most peop

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-06-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-05-19 18:12, André Pirard wrote : > This is about OSM ticket https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/5163 > (obsolete): >> The rendering of highway=path and highway=track is barely >> distinguishable. >> ... In summary, I don't know how many of you appreciate to tag with this result where no

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-06-05 Thread David Bannon
On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 22:31 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: > (Greg) As for style, I mean something as simple as dashed > casings when unpaved, > What about countries where 90% of roads are unpaved? That's not going > to look very nice. > > Janko, I am sure you don't mean to suggest