Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

2013-12-23 Thread Jonathan
I am not qualified to answer any of these questions as I've never got involved in editing boundaries in OSM however it does raise an interesting wider question, which is, how do we map all territories that are claimed by one country or another but not internationally recognised? Some territori

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - opening hours open end fixed time extension

2013-12-23 Thread Robin `ypid` Schneider
Hi all With this mail I open the voting phase. The proposal page is located here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours_open_end_fixed_time_extension I would like to hear your opinions about this extension. -- Live long and prosper Robin Schneider ___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - opening hours open end fixed time extension

2013-12-23 Thread Martin Vonwald
Maybe you would like to give just one or two weeks more time for voting because of the christmas holidays. best regards, Martin 2013/12/23 Robin `ypid` Schneider > Hi all > > With this mail I open the voting phase. The proposal page is located here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Propose

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

2013-12-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
I gave it some more thought and I think it may be best for the community to abstain from such disputes (otherwise we would be dragged into them). The fact that we refer to them in a special way linguistically (calling them "disputed territories" or "territorial claims") means to me that they probab

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - opening hours open end fixed time extension

2013-12-23 Thread Robin `ypid` Schneider
Sure. I have no problem with that :) The voting end is now set to 2014-01-20. On 12/23/2013 04:32 PM, Martin Vonwald wrote: Maybe you would like to give just one or two weeks more time for voting because of the christmas holidays. 2013/12/23 Robin `ypid` Schneider Hi all With this mail I op

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

2013-12-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
Or, disputed territories wouldn't even have an admin_level tag and would be mapped as regions (which always seemed to me as a generic "fallback" for things that do not fit a specific standard): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dregion The boundary lines would still need boundary=* for

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

2013-12-23 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 23.12.2013 11:56, schrieb Jonathan: I am not qualified to answer any of these questions as I've never got involved in editing boundaries in OSM however it does raise an interesting wider question, which is, how do we map all territories that are claimed by one country or another but not inter

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

2013-12-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
If I were doing the map of that region and had to explain to Sudanese and South-Sudanese my decision, I'd either add both borders (your suggestion), or create a special entity (my suggestion). But for those who are not involved in the conflict, is the area part of Sudan or South-Sudan? I guess they

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

2013-12-23 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
There's some related discussion on the Talk:Tag:boundary=adminstrative wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:boundary=administrative#Disputed_borders A suggestion is to replace the 'inner' and 'outer' relation roles (which is trivial to determine) with roles that specify the claim

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

2013-12-23 Thread Michael Krämer
First of all I think there is no really perfect solution to the problem. To me this is inherent to the dispute as different parties have a different view of what's right and wrong. So I think this conflict will show up in the data anyway. 2013/12/23 Fernando Trebien > Today, from a practical pe

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

2013-12-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
I'm also hesitant to bring apps to the discussion, since we don't tag for apps, but things like Nominatim (a fundamental piece of the ecosystem) have been around for a long time and I doubt something much different will emerge. One could bring satellite navigation apps into the discussion and the l