Re: [Tagging] Life cycle group

2013-04-08 Thread Alberto
Well, disused:*=* and abandoned:*=* are widely used, you could simply link to their Wiki pages. For construction, we should make a general proposal separated from power refinements, as you suggest. Bye Viking81 - Alberto ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

[Tagging] generator:output:electricity - for photovoltaic panels?

2013-04-08 Thread ael
I wasn't quite sure whether to start a new thread for this given the current discussions. But I think it is a distinct point. I have recently mapped a solar farm (in Cornwall, UK). I found the current tagging scheme didn't fit this case very well: I just stumbled across this large photovoltaic sol

Re: [Tagging] generator:output:electricity - for photovoltaic panels?

2013-04-08 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
My experience from working with power system indicators (for about two years a few years back) is that you definitely should include the "boilerplate" capacity values. The name of this value can have many other names such as Installed Capacity, etc. Wikipedia had some decent entries on this and

Re: [Tagging] Power generation refinement: power plant model evolution

2013-04-08 Thread François Lacombe
Hi, I finally agree with you. I've began to update the proposal to remove relations in all cases except when power plant doesn't have any physical permimeter. We must keep role=generator for all generators (no need to distinguish them there) in such relation since other features may be added too.

Re: [Tagging] generator:output:electricity - for photovoltaic panels?

2013-04-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 08/apr/2013 um 14:25 schrieb ael : > Has this been discussed before? It seems that we need a > generator:estimated_output:electricity or some such for wind and solar? IMHO the nominal max. rating is sufficient, the effective output can then be calculated/estimated based on this and locat

Re: [Tagging] Mismatched Level of Detail in highways vs. other elements

2013-04-08 Thread Dave Sutter
I like the idea of increasing the level of detail of the streets, and I agree that this would best be done by separating the routing network from the visual presentation. I think this can, however, be done in the existing data model, which is very flexible. Further, we wouldn't need to disrupt the

Re: [Tagging] Life cycle group

2013-04-08 Thread Ole Nielsen
On 08/04/2013 09:07, Alberto wrote: Well, disused:*=* and abandoned:*=* are widely used, you could simply link to their Wiki pages. For construction, we should make a general proposal separated from power refinements, as you suggest. We really need a consistent life cycle scheme that defines al

Re: [Tagging] Life cycle group

2013-04-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/4/8 Ole Nielsen > On 08/04/2013 09:07, Alberto wrote: > >> Well, disused:*=* and abandoned:*=* are widely used, you could simply link >> to their Wiki pages. >> For construction, we should make a general proposal separated from power >> refinements, as you suggest. >> > > We really need a co

Re: [Tagging] Power generation refinement: power plant model evolution

2013-04-08 Thread Ole Nielsen
On 08/04/2013 15:02, François Lacombe wrote: I finally agree with you. I've began to update the proposal to remove relations in all cases except when power plant doesn't have any physical permimeter. Thanks! We must keep role=generator for all generators (no need to distinguish them there) i

Re: [Tagging] Life cycle group

2013-04-08 Thread Ole Nielsen
2013/4/8 Ole Nielsen mailto:on-...@xs4all.nl>> not so sure, that "historic" is the right term for stuff completely gone, currently the key "historic" is used mainly for stuff that was created a long time ago, but which hasn't necessarily vanished in the meantime (most of the stuff categorized und

Re: [Tagging] landuse=water_wellfield

2013-04-08 Thread Guillaume Allegre
Le lun. 08 avril 2013 à 08:48 +0200, Peter Wendorff a écrit : > Hi > > Am 07.04.2013 22:25, schrieb Guillaume Allegre: > I know at least one that's not excluding any other landuse, but has > apple trees planted sparsely on the grass that covers most of the area, > the German word for it is "Streu

Re: [Tagging] Mismatched Level of Detail in highways vs. other elements

2013-04-08 Thread Markus Lindholm
On 8 April 2013 17:51, Dave Sutter wrote: > I like the idea of increasing the level of detail of the streets, and > I agree that this would best be done by separating the routing network > from the visual presentation. I think this can, however, be done in > the existing data model, which is very

Re: [Tagging] Power generation refinement: power plant model evolution

2013-04-08 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 08/apr/2013 um 00:03 schrieb François Lacombe : > I'll update proposal with following generator tag values: generator=output or > generator=intermediate (generator=* key doesn't exist). I'd suggest a more specific key name like generator:role etc. Output and intermediate might seem a log

[Tagging] Classifications of power lines

2013-04-08 Thread François Lacombe
Hi, I've noticed a new page on the wiki : Classification of power lines, created and maintained by Aldemarin. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Classification_of_Powerlines It's a really good work, it gives many useful information about power lines around the world (voltages, frequencies) and th

Re: [Tagging] Power generation refinement: power plant model evolution

2013-04-08 Thread François Lacombe
2013/4/8 Ole Nielsen > On 08/04/2013 15:02, François Lacombe wrote: > >> I finally agree with you. >> I've began to update the proposal to remove relations in all cases >> except when power plant doesn't have any physical permimeter. >> > > Thanks! You're welcome :) I've been sure it will satis

Re: [Tagging] generator:output:electricity - for photovoltaic panels?

2013-04-08 Thread François Lacombe
Hi, Thanks for this useful question. As the wiki page of generator:output doesn't give that piece of information, I've been reading the original proposal of this key. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/generator_rationalisation#Output_rating As said before it's the nominal max

Re: [Tagging] Life cycle group

2013-04-08 Thread François Lacombe
Hi gentlemen, I completely agree with Ole to say we really need a consistent life cycle scheme. Nevertheless, using :*=* to describe life cycle of keys instead of objects doesn't sound good to me. If an object has 3 successive different use cases, we would tag the two first as disused:*=* but we

Re: [Tagging] Mismatched Level of Detail in highways vs. other elements

2013-04-08 Thread Martin Atkins
On 04/08/2013 01:40 PM, Markus Lindholm wrote: On 8 April 2013 17:51, Dave Sutter mailto:sut...@intransix.com>> wrote: I like the idea of increasing the level of detail of the streets, and I agree that this would best be done by separating the routing network from the visual presenta