[Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

Hi, this topic has been discussed earlier and some wiki edits have been done. But I feel no real solution has been found and I still find it hard to tag what I see on the ground. So here we go again: How to tag an enclosed piece of land where, after paying a fee to the operator, you can use diffe

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Ronnie Soak wrote: > Best solution I could come up with: tag the whole thing as > leisure=water_park [1] (even if it is not that fancy as in the wiki > definition), tag the water features as leisure=swimming_pool[2](even if you > can't swim in some) and sport=swimm

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

Hi! 2013/1/15 Ronnie Soak : > Best solution I could come up with: tag the whole thing as > leisure=water_park [1] (even if it is not that fancy as in the wiki > definition), tag the water features as leisure=swimming_pool[2](even if you > can't swim in some) and sport=swimming for those you actual

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

2013/1/15 Guttorm Flatabø : > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Ronnie Soak > wrote: >> >> Best solution I could come up with: tag the whole thing as >> leisure=water_park [1] (even if it is not that fancy as in the wiki >> definition), tag the water features as leisure=swimming_pool[2](even if you

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

2013/1/15 Guttorm Flatabø > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Ronnie Soak < > chaoschaos0...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Best solution I could come up with: tag the whole thing as >> leisure=water_park [1] (even if it is not that fancy as in the wiki >> definition), tag the water features as leisu

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

2013/1/15 Martin Vonwald > > > (I may also add landuse=basin, but this may be overkill.) > > I don't think it's overkill I think it's wrong. Although a swimming > pool is "An area of land artificially graded to hold water." it > doesn't feel right. Have a look at the subkey "basin" and its values

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ronnie Soak wrote: > Ok. I was just looking for a key to maybe use for water features that are > so clearly not for swimming that I hesitate to use the swimming_pool tag. > E.g.: childrens basins, the high diving basin, the pool at the end of the > waterslide etc

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

Am 15/gen/2013 um 09:28 schrieb Ronnie Soak : > The green around would be a leisure=park, landcover=grass. > if this is referring to areas inside the fencing I wouldn't tag them as park, you could add some landcover for the grass but generally they are already tagged correctly as part o

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

Hi again, 2013/1/15 Ronnie Soak : > 2013/1/15 Martin Vonwald >> > (I may also add landuse=basin, but this may be overkill.) >> I don't think it's overkill I think it's wrong. Although a swimming >> pool is "An area of land artificially graded to hold water." it >> doesn't feel right. Have a look

[Tagging] What key for animal related "amenities"?

Hi! I'm looking for a better key than amenity for any animal related feature. For example I want to tag a horse walker [1]. I could use amenity=horse_walker but this key is already flooded with pretty everything. Any ideas for a better key? Thanks. regards, Martin [1] http://www.topnotchequestri

Re: [Tagging] What key for animal related "amenities"?

Am 15/gen/2013 um 10:44 schrieb Martin Vonwald : > I'm looking for a better key than amenity for any animal related > feature. For example I want to tag a horse walker [1]. I could use > amenity=horse_walker but this key is already flooded with pretty > everything. Any ideas for a better key?

Re: [Tagging] What key for animal related "amenities"?

2013/1/15 Martin Koppenhoefer : >> I'm looking for a better key than amenity for any animal related >> feature. For example I want to tag a horse walker [1]. I could use >> amenity=horse_walker but this key is already flooded with pretty >> everything. Any ideas for a better key? > > > IMHO animal

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

There's also an attraction=water_slide[0], it isn't rendered in the current stylesheet but it's the correct tag to use :) I'm respondible for some swimming pools multipolygons, the explaination is that in water parks there are these big water areas in which you can walk or swim, but there are some

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

> Maybe I explained that wrong. I didn't want a 'background' tag just for > the > > rest of the area, but > > one for the well kept green used as recreational area, taking a sun bath, > > let the children play etc. > > (As opposed to additional unkept green, bushes, trees and areas not meant > > fo

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:59 AM, sabas88 wrote: > I'm respondible for some swimming pools multipolygons, the explaination is > that in water parks there are these big water areas in which you can walk > or swim, but there are some 'islands' inside. > Here's an example http://osm.org/go/xT3TtKM0f

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

2013/1/15 Ronnie Soak : >> > Maybe I explained that wrong. I didn't want a 'background' tag just for >> > the >> > rest of the area, but >> > one for the well kept green used as recreational area, taking a sun >> > bath, >> > let the children play etc. >> > (As opposed to additional unkept green, b

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

2013/1/15 Martin Vonwald > > To me landuse=meadow means an area where grass is grown for some > purpose. One purpose may be grazing/pasture. Another may be to lay on > it. If a meadow is really used for grazing I add meadow=pasture. > Beware! Off-topic: So technically, we could also use it for

Re: [Tagging] What key for animal related "amenities"?

2013/1/15 Martin Vonwald : > 2013/1/15 Martin Koppenhoefer : >> IMHO animal is a good key for this, but you could also use one of the others >> like amenity, man_made, building, leisure ;-) > > Actually I think that animal is a rather bad key for this. To me this > would name the animal the featur

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

2013/1/15 Ronnie Soak : > 2013/1/15 Martin Vonwald >> To me landuse=meadow means an area where grass is grown for some >> purpose. One purpose may be grazing/pasture. Another may be to lay on >> it. If a meadow is really used for grazing I add meadow=pasture. > > Beware! Off-topic: > > So technica

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

2013/1/15 Ronnie Soak : > 2013/1/15 Martin Vonwald >> >> >> To me landuse=meadow means an area where grass is grown for some >> purpose. One purpose may be grazing/pasture. Another may be to lay on >> it. If a meadow is really used for grazing I add meadow=pasture. +1 > So technically, we coul

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

2013/1/15 Martin Koppenhoefer : > If all > you want to say is that there is grass growing I'd rather use > landcover=grass. To me the difference between landcover=grass and landuse=meadow is the purpose: * landcover=grass: there is grass, no information about the purpose * landuse=meadow: there is

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

On 2013-01-15 01:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2013/1/15 : There is a fast food franchise site which is closed for renovation in my vicinity. Two questions: * Would you support or recommend tagging a transient state like 'closed for renovation'?If one were to indicate temporary cl

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

2013/1/15 A.Pirard.Papou > What about suggesting the shops to post their requests to OpenStreetBugs > (1)? Or offer them a simple dedicated system to edit directly in OSM (something very simple, which offers just the tags that are connected to a certain topic, and which abstracts the tags from

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

> Subject: Tagging Digest, Vol 40, Issue 22 > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:24:42 +0100 > From: Fran?ois Lacombe > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [Tagging] [Proposed features/Power] Difference between aerial > and underground power lines > Message-ID: > > Content-T

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

2013/1/15 St Niklaas : > Excuse but despite of all the technical remarks you made, if a powerline > goes underground, why bother to tag it, theyre not visible though ? I might > be a NB but I got the message please tag all visible items in OSM. I even > look surprised finding community borders and

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

Hi Martin & Hendrik, Nowadays, undergound power lines are part of large electric systems and are as important as aerial ones. Cartography them (and make data free on OSM) is a good way to bring reliable information about these contiental electric systems. Moreover, some projects didn't wait for

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

In English, overground power transmission is done by overground power *lines *(strands of metal without insulation, using the air as insulator), underground power transmission is done by means of underground power *cables * (strands of metal with insulation) (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elec

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

On 2013-01-15 14:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2013/1/15 A.Pirard.Papou > What about suggesting the shops to post their requests to OpenStreetBugs (1)? Or offer them a simple dedicated system to edit directly in OSM (something very simple, which o

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

Of course I agree with you, Volker. But "aerial line" refers to all the conductors transmitting different lives/phases whereas underground power cable, at high voltage, refers to only one phase/conductor. http://www.nexans.no/eservice/Norway-no_NO/fileLibrary/Download_540199654/Norway/files/Underg

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

This may help http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/164648452. Power lines in this case pass through an old railway tunnel. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 15/01/2013 14:31 François Lacombe wrote: Of course I agree with you, Volker. But "aerial line" refers to all the conduc

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

On 2013-01-15 16:43, Philip Barnes wrote : This may help http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/164648452. Power lines in this case pass through an old railway tunnel. Shouldn't the tag be voltage:power=40 ? ;-) Cheers, André. ___ Ta

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

Nice example Phil, thanks a lot. My tagging scheme works great with it : power=line + locaion=underground :) 2013/1/15 A.Pirard.Papou > > Shouldn't the tag be voltage:power=40 ? ;-) > No problem I mean : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:voltage *François Lacombe* francois dot la

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

On 15/01/13 14:17, A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > On 2013-01-15 14:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : >> >> 2013/1/15 A.Pirard.Papou > > >> >> What about suggesting the shops to post their requests to >> OpenStreetBugs (1)? >> >> >> >> Or offer them a simple dedicate

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

Not my mapping, just somewhere I've been walking and thought wonder if it had been mapped. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 15/01/2013 16:06 François Lacombe wrote: Nice example Phil, thanks a lot. My tagging scheme works great with it : power=line + locaion=underground :) 2013/1/15 A.Pi

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

Just to be sure, I have consulted my professional electrical engineer colleagues. We agree that there is some space for ambiguity. When one (overground) power line (which is composed of several conductors) goes underground, the power line continues as one or several underground cables, depending on

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

In my mind, average mapper (with engineering degree or not, someone who don't want get busy with hard & specialized technical stuff) only see the line. The line is the base concept of all the rest. It support tags and circuits relations. It can has 1 or several conductors, that's not the point at

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

On 2013-01-15 16:43, Philip Barnes wrote : This may help http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/164648452. Power lines in this case pass through an old railway tunnel. On 2013-01-15 17:06, François Lacombe wrote : Nice example Phil, thanks a lot. My tagging scheme works great with it : p

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

On 15/01/2013 15:31, François Lacombe wrote: But "aerial line" refers to all the conductors transmitting different lives/phases whereas underground power cable, at high voltage, refers to only one phase/conductor. http://www.nexans.no/eservice/Norway-no_NO/fileLibrary/Download_540199654/Norway/f

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

On 15/01/2013 19:29, A.Pirard.Papou wrote: But, while I was readjusting what others have left behind, I found a power line, as it's often the case with those long haul mappings (landuse etc...), that was attached to a bike lane (node in common). Imagine catching 24000 V in the pedals ;-) Serious

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

2013/1/15 Ole Nielsen > > Well, I think we need to properly define what is meant by "power=cable". > The wiki page isn't entirely clear on that matter. I'm usually mapping a > underground cable connection as a single way tagged as "power=cable" and > indicating the number of physical cables with

[Tagging] year in opening_hours syntax

i'm looking an application where having year in the opening_hours syntax would be useful, not directly in opening hours but for a conditional access restriction. the use case would be that known road closures could be placed in advance, and routing/GPS software that could handle it would be ab

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground, Vol 40, Issue 30

> From: tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Tagging Digest, Vol 40, Issue 30 > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:52:42 + >5. Re: Powerlines underground (Fran?ois Lacombe) Hi Guys, since I had the wrong impression, it looks like were tagging underground pow

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Balgofil wrote: > So one solution that was pointed out in the thread is to tag the > "Schutzstreifen" with cycleway=shared_lane because of the description > in the wiki. I then pointed out, that in the UK there is a similar > situation, but no solution to it (see

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground, Vol 40, Issue 30

> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:23:55 -0500 > From: nerou...@gmail.com > CC: st.nikl...@live.nl > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground, Vol 40, Issue 30 Hi,Thanks, I > didnt use the right key word to see the tags. But the way of a underground > line remains secret to most of us if the data

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

2013/1/15 Ole Nielsen : > The 'snap-to' function in JOSM sometimes causes such accidents if you are > not careful but I suspect many of those spurious connections are caused by > mappers using Potlatch. btw.: you can temporarily disable snapping by holding "ctrl" cheers, Martin