Re: [Tagging] unfinished railway of historic importance

2012-02-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02/25/12 01:23, Richard Welty wrote: how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant important landmark value in the current landscape? I think that what you are seeing is not a railway at all. I suggest to tag what you see on the ground, rather than whatever the object

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Mike Valiant
If the gate is a node on a way that passes through the gate then I would have thoughtbarrier=gate and maxwidth=xxxon the node that is the gate would be more appropriate. It defines the maximum size of vehicle (person?) that could pass through the aperture. //Mike

Re: [Tagging] Public land mapping

2012-02-26 Thread Michael Krämer
Hello, Am 25.02.2012 23:36, schrieb Shawn Michael: Specifically in the maps, I can easily see how to tag the green items on the maps, as those are National Forest Service lands. Although there is a bit of confusion here as well. Not all of the Forest Service lands are covered by forest. So I gue

Re: [Tagging] unfinished railway of historic importance

2012-02-26 Thread Steve Bennett
On Feb 26, 2012 7:42 PM, "Frederik Ramm" wrote: > > Hi, > > > On 02/25/12 01:23, Richard Welty wrote: >> >> how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant important >> landmark value in the current landscape? > > > I think that what you are seeing is not a railway at all. > > I sug

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 26. Februar 2012 09:45 schrieb Mike Valiant : > If the gate is a node on a way that passes through the gate then I would > have thought    barrier=gate and maxwidth=xxx    on the node that is the > gate would be more appropriate. It defines the maximum size of vehicle > (person?) that could pass

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Andrew Errington
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:26:05 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am 26. Februar 2012 09:45 schrieb Mike Valiant : > > If the gate is a node on a way that passes through the gate then I would > > have thought    barrier=gate and maxwidth=xxx    on the node that is the > > gate would be more appropriate. It

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Mike Valiant
That not what the wiki for maxwidth says: " a width limit for using the way" - no mention of whether it is a legal restriction or not. And in the discussion of maxwidth "width restriction can be physical, or purely legal" //Mike > Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:26:05 +0100 > From: dieterdre...@gmai

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 26. Februar 2012 13:17 schrieb Mike Valiant : > That not what the wiki for maxwidth says: " a width limit for using the way" >  - no mention of whether it is a legal restriction or not. And in the > discussion of maxwidth "width restriction can be physical, or purely legal" the wiki is not alw

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Mike Valiant
IMHO a physical restriction is as important as a legal restriction. If I have a wide vehicle and I was using routing software using the OSM database it would be useful to be able to put in my vehicle's width and then the routing software could parse for maxwidth as a restriction along the rout

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 26. Februar 2012 13:53 schrieb Mike Valiant : > IMHO a physical restriction is as important as a legal restriction. If I > have a  wide vehicle and I was using routing software using the OSM database > it would be useful to be able to put in my vehicle's width and then the > routing software cou

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Kytömaa Lauri
>This was discussed intensely some time ago for maxheight, I suggest >you read the archives on this. I agree that a physical restriction is Originally there was little mention of any of them tags depicting purely legal restrictions. Even access/*=no was "unsuitable or not allowed", but later, as

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Mike Valiant
> Originally there was little mention of any of them tags depicting > purely legal restrictions. Even access/*=no was "unsuitable or not > allowed", but later, as it was deemed unverifiable, the "only legal" > started creeping into all sorts of tags, where it may or may not be > the common usage

[Tagging] What is this path surface called?

2012-02-26 Thread Nathan Edgars II
http://i43.tinypic.com/2moxxjl.jpg There's a black tarp spread over the ground (tree roots have exposed a piece here) with dirt, mulch, and other natural materials spread on top. Does this have a name? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] What is this path surface called?

2012-02-26 Thread Mike Valiant
I think the "tarp" is a horticultural membrane designed to stop weeds growing up through the path. The "mulch" looks like debris that has fallen from the trees rather than anything applied deliberately. It's difficult to see from the photo, but it looks like the original path surface material w

Re: [Tagging] What is this path surface called?

2012-02-26 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 2/26/2012 12:59 PM, Mike Valiant wrote: I think the "tarp" is a horticultural membrane designed to stop weeds growing up through the path. The "mulch" looks like debris that has fallen from the trees rather than anything applied deliberately. It's difficult to see from the photo, but it looks

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread LM_1
I agree that maxwidth=any_number should be interpreted as general restriction without discrimination. Generally I'd like to see a clearly distinctive tagging of legal (am I allowed to) vs. physical (will I not get stuck) aspects, but that is much broader issue than maxwidth. maxwidth might actually

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Volker Schmidt
I must admit that I haven't checked the wiki. The thing started with warnings by JOSM that said that I should not apply width to a node. I checked tag info and that confirmed that the use is sporadic only. To me width fits perfectly to a node of type barrier like a gate or a cycle barrier Volker

Re: [Tagging] unfinished railway of historic importance

2012-02-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 02/25/12 01:23, Richard Welty wrote: > > how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant > important > > landmark value in the current landscape? > > I think that what you are seeing is not a railway at all. > > I suggest to tag what you see on

Re: [Tagging] What is this path surface called?

2012-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > http://i43.tinypic.com/**2moxxjl.jpg > There's a black tarp spread over the ground (tree roots have exposed a > piece here) with dirt, mulch, and other natural materials spread on top. > Does this have

[Tagging] Building tag, "building typology" vs "current function"

2012-02-26 Thread Zkir
Hi All! Some time ago PeterIto changed the description of tagging criterion from "building typology" to "current function". Looks that there are different points of view for this questi

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate

2012-02-26 Thread Shawn Michael
On 02/26/2012 09:16 AM, Mike Valiant wrote: > Originally there was little mention of any of them tags depicting > purely legal restrictions. Even access/*=no was "unsuitable or not > allowed", but later, as it was deemed unverifiable, the "only legal" > started creeping into all sorts of ta

Re: [Tagging] Public land mapping

2012-02-26 Thread Shawn Michael
I agree that boundary=protected_area seems to be the best fit so far. However there's really no classification under "protect_class=" that fits the bill. I'd almost like to see #27 added under social-protected-area http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area#Social-protect

Re: [Tagging] Building tag, "building typology" vs "current function"

2012-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I'm in favour of typology, no need to change (function is already tagged with amenity, shop, office, ...). "house" and "apartments" are hardly different functions, but they are different types. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetm

Re: [Tagging] Building tag, "building typology" vs "current function"

2012-02-26 Thread LM_1
The value for building key should be the type of the building, not its current use. A church remians church even after islam takes over and its used as a mosque or vice versa (Pécs). Villa is different from apartments or bungalow, but all are usually used for residential purposes. There are poly-fu

Re: [Tagging] Building tag, "building typology" vs "current function"

2012-02-26 Thread Steve Bennett
2012/2/27 Кирилл "Zkir" Бондаренко : > Could you please express your opinion on the issue. Building=* is one of the > most used tags, and it would be nice to understand it in the same way, in > the whole OSM, even in different countries. Interesting one. I note there is both building=residential,