Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - second_hand shops

2011-11-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/7 Ferenc Veres : > 2011.11.07. 0:24 keltezéssel, Laurence Penney írta: >> About a year ago Sean Horgan, Craig Wallace and I thrashed out some >> ideas for charity shops. It just seemed wrong not to tag an Oxfam >> bookshop as shop=books! The discussion was fruitful although, >> reprehensibl

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/7 Dmitri Lebedev : > Hello, > this is the page with the proposal: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ridge > > Just look at this picture: > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/North_Ridge_of_Mount_Rohr.jpg/400px-North_Ridge_of_Mount_Rohr.jpg > > Ther

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/8 John Sturdy : > I think it's easier to survey a ridge (either from aerials, or by > walking along it with GPS) than to get enough altitude points to > generate it automatically, so I think we should allow them to be > entered as ways (which won't prevent renderers from finding more > ridg

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Michael Krämer
2011/11/8 Martin Koppenhoefer > I am not sure for the wording though. Isn't this an edge? Maybe I am > confused, because wikipedia "told" me that a ridge would be a natural > feature (your proposal doesn't give any definition what a ridge is) > occuring at a _chain of mountains_ (but in the osm w

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/8 Michael Krämer : > This would definetly help - especially for us Germans trying to understand > the difference :-) Here a picture of what I personally would consider a > ridge: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Herzogstand_HQ.jpg Yes, that's unambigous, but what about t

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Andreas Labres
Martin, "Ridge" IMO closest means "Kamm" in German. eg. "Nordkette" north of Innsbruck http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inntalkette (German) - we should distinguish this from - a whole mountain range ("das Gebirge" in German) eg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steinernes_Meer http://en.wikipedia.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/8 Andreas Labres : > "Ridge" IMO closest means "Kamm" in German. yes, I'd also see it like this. So how would you tag a de:"Grat"? natural=edge? > - we should distinguish this from - > a whole mountain range ("das Gebirge" in German) > natural=range or mountain_range (Gebirge or Gebirgs

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi Martin, 2011/11/8 Martin Koppenhoefer > Yes, that's unambigous, but what about this? > Thanks, that's what I tried . > 1 > http://www.rainerundclaudia.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/20090419-Mit-Julia-u.-Alex-am-Karlsruher-Grat-0232.jpg > 2 > http://alpinestock.com/grat_sareiserjoch_malbun_l

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/8 Michael Krämer : > I would consider both a ridge. But honestly my personal definition would be > to the German "Grat"...:-) To give a negative example, here something I > would not consider a ridge but either cliff or rock: > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/H%C3%B6rnleL

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Andreas Labres
On 08.11.11 16:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > So how would you tag a de:"Grat"? Don't know what the correct English phrase would be. Maybe the mountain guys @talk-at know... User fkv/0/ has done a lot of mountain edits, AFAICT. BTW, should also be discussed rendering-wise, comparing a cliff (wh

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 11/7/2011 5:41 PM, Dmitri Lebedev wrote: > >> Is a ridge something that can be auto-generated from good > >> elevationdata? If so, probably only named ridges need to be mapped. > > > > I think it's ok to map unnamed ridges, just to show that some > borders go > > by t

[Tagging] Tagging a club's meeting location

2011-11-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
In addition to being a mapper, I am the secretary of the Nashville Linux Users Group. I have been debating whether the club's monthly meeting location should be tagged in OSM, and, if so, what tag to use. The question arises because the club doesn't have its own dedicated space; instead, it me

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a club's meeting location

2011-11-08 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:21 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > In addition to being a mapper, I am the secretary of the Nashville Linux > Users Group.  I have been debating whether the club's monthly meeting > location should be tagged in OSM, and, if so, what tag to use.  The question > arises beca

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a club's meeting location

2011-11-08 Thread Martijn van Exel
You could of course use the website tag (formerly url) to link to a page with more info. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website Martijn On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:21 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: >> In addition to being a mapper,

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 11/8/2011 2:03 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 11/7/2011 5:41 PM, Dmitri Lebedev wrote: Is a ridge something that can be auto-generated from good elevationdata? If so, probably only named ridges need to be mapped. I think it's ok to map unnamed ridges, just to show

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a club's meeting location

2011-11-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 11/8/2011 3:08 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: You could of course use the website tag (formerly url) to link to a page with more info. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website Use that tag on *what*? It's not the website of the lecture hall or anything else that should be mapped. ___

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a club's meeting location

2011-11-08 Thread Martijn van Exel
On the lecture hall point or building outline. I'm assuming here that the lecture hall web site will list the event on an event schedule on their schedule. If that's not the case it becomes less obvious, but you could still invent and propose a subtag (website:user for shared spaces for example -

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a club's meeting location

2011-11-08 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:21 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > In addition to being a mapper, I am the secretary of the Nashville Linux > Users Group.  I have been debating whether the club's monthly meeting > location should be tagged in OSM, and, if so, what tag to use.  The question > arises beca

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a club's meeting location

2011-11-08 Thread Martijn van Exel
Richard, I have to agree. Some problems aren't tagging problems, and there's enough debate over tagging as it is.. Your suggestions are excellent ones. That said, if you'd really really want to tag this, you could find a way. There's nothing against that, as long as it satisfies some basic rules (

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a club's meeting location

2011-11-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/11/8 Serge Wroclawski : >> How should such a meeting location be tagged? > > It shouldn't. > > We mark locations and just like you don't mark every class on a > university campus, you don't mark your monthly LUG meeting's location. IMHO you can tag it. If those meetings happen at the same pl

[Tagging] Mapping a negative

2011-11-08 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I've run into a curious use of a tag, to map the /lack/ of a thing. At least that's what I think mappers are doing. One might normally expect a well, mountain hut, highway rest area, or toilet to offer drinking water. Some mappers have placed: drinking_water=no To indicate the normal expect

Re: [Tagging] Mapping a negative

2011-11-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 November 2011 16:12, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > I've run into a curious use of a tag, to map the lack of a thing. > At least that's what I think mappers are doing. > > One might normally expect a well, mountain hut, highway rest area, or toilet > to offer drinking water. Some mappers have placed: