2011/9/28 Nathan Edgars II :
> On 9/27/2011 8:26 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> How? What's wrong with all of the sub-Manhattan entities being
> place=neighborhood?
not sure if there is something wrong there, so you could (as local
mapper) decide to do it like this. In other parts of the world
Martin, I'm not sure the NYC example is helping. You mentioned this was
discussed on the German mailing list--can you give some other examples from
Germany (or whereever) about how this might be used? Thanks, Brad
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2011/9/28 Nathan E
2011/9/22 Kytömaa Lauri :
Sorry if I raise the discussion again but our documentation about
lanes still doesn't clarify our position on how we count lanes (e.g.
psv lanes) and turning lanes:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes
> (3) Few days back there were, globally, 721 turnlanes relations
Pieren wrote:
> Am I the only one who think that the turnlanes plugin is splendid
> but unworkable for average contributors, reserved to one editor
> (JOSM) and resulting data (relations) obscure/opaque/cryptic
> for humans ?
No, you're certainly not the only person who thinks that!
cheers
Ric
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> 2011/9/27 Nathan Edgars II :
>> On 9/27/2011 4:57 PM, Gérard wrote:
>> Given that studies disagree about what makes a street safe for cyclists, any
>> tagging would be based not on safety but on how comfortable the mapper feels
>> while
On 9/28/2011 12:08 PM, Josh Doe wrote:
Width of outside lane (no tags for this AFAIK)
Shoulder details (width, surface: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder)
This only applies if you ride as far right as possible. It's safer to
ride in the middle of the right lane, and causes little inc
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 9/28/2011 12:08 PM, Josh Doe wrote:
> > Width of outside lane (no tags for this AFAIK)
> > Shoulder details (width, surface:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder)
>
> This only applies if you ride as far right as possible. It's safer to
> ride in the middle
On 9/28/2011 12:22 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
If you try this at rush hour, I guarantee you will tick off a lot of motorists,
and possibly even receive a ticket from the police for impeding traffic,
depending upon the local traffic laws.
I put my own safety above the convenience of motorists
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Josh Doe wrote:
> Unfortunately this is true. What's needed is to document the objective
> facts
Then we can delete the keys "smoothness" , "sac_scale", "mtb:scale"
and "tracktype". But, oh no, they seem to be widely used. Perhaps
because they summarize in a simpl
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> I put my own safety above the convenience of motorists.
'safety' or 'egocentrism' ?
Pieren
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On 9/28/2011 12:39 PM, Pieren wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
I put my own safety above the convenience of motorists.
'safety' or 'egocentrism' ?
Safety.
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This discussion has happened before. I guess it will happen again.
The argument that more hard-core riders can't judge the bicycle
friendliness of a road is ridiculous. Any bicycle friendliness tags
will obviously be targeted at average commuting cyclists. The fact
that *I* ride along a road regul
On 9/28/2011 2:13 PM, Toby Murray wrote:
But people
who are intereseted in cycling can (and have) easily add a single tag
and get some basic data into the system.
I can accept this. But don't call it safety, since it's not. Call it
something that makes it clear that it's about how comfortable
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 9/28/2011 2:13 PM, Toby Murray wrote:
> >But people
> > who are intereseted in cycling can (and have) easily add a single
> tag
> > and get some basic data into the system.
>
> I can accept this. But don't call it safety, since it's not. Call it
> something that mak
What is our recommendation for tagging the access roads entering or
leaving motorway service(s) areas ?
Is is "highway=service" like here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.808617&lon=9.047404&zoom=18&layers=M
Or "highway=motorway_link" like here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.678414&lon
On 9/28/2011 3:04 PM, Pieren wrote:
What is our recommendation for tagging the access roads entering or
leaving motorway service(s) areas ?
No consensus. Keepright accepts either.
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Toby Murray wrote:
> The argument that more hard-core riders can't judge the
> bicycle friendliness of a road is ridiculous. Any bicycle
> friendliness tags will obviously be targeted at average
> commuting cyclists.
It might seem "obvious" to you, but something else seems "obvious" to me!
And
Pieren wrote:
> Then we can delete the keys "smoothness" , "sac_scale", "mtb:scale"
> and "tracktype". But, oh no, they seem to be widely used.
YMMV. I've never seen the first three in the wild in the UK. tracktype was
once popular but is largely being supplanted by objective use of the
surface= t
On Thu, September 29, 2011 04:08, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 9/28/2011 3:04 PM, Pieren wrote:
>
>> What is our recommendation for tagging the access roads entering or
>> leaving motorway service(s) areas ?
>
> No consensus. Keepright accepts either.
>
I generally use motorway_link because motorw
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:10:43 +0900
> From: a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk
> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] rest_area and service road
>
> On Thu, September 29, 2011 04:08, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> > On 9/28/2011 3:04 PM, Pieren wrote:
> >
> >> What is our recommendation
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