2011/8/31 Bryce Nesbitt :
> I'm a city dweller. We have some (and will soon have some very prominent)
> rooftop parks.
That's fine, you can tag them with leisure=park (or maybe
leisure=garden, and garden:type)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/
On 30/08/2011 13:13, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/8/30 Dave F.:
If using an area polygon ,suburbs etc should be tagged with boundary=.
Suburbs include residential, schools& golf courses etc.
-1, IMHO we are using place for this. There is no need to use boundary.
See here: http://wiki.openst
On 31/08/2011 02:04, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
I encourage use of this type of tag /primarily/ on /nodes/.
The boundaries in most case are far too fluid to use this on areas.
I tend to agree with Bryce. Quite often in the UK there are
disagreements where suburbs/neighbourhoods boundaries occur.
The
On 30/08/2011 12:10, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 8/30/2011 6:40 AM, Dave F. wrote:
You appear to be confusing the landuse tag with the boundary tag.
No. You appear to be disagreeing with my use of the boundary tag.
That as well.
Dave F.
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please have a glimpse at those additional barrier values and details.
The proposal is a little bit older and I will bring this to voting
soon:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_barrier_types
cheers,
Martin
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"Dave F." wrote:
> On 31/08/2011 02:04, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> > I encourage use of this type of tag /primarily/ on /nodes/.
> > The boundaries in most case are far too fluid to use this on areas.
>
> I tend to agree with Bryce. Quite often in the UK there are
> disagreements where suburbs/neigh
2011/8/31 John F. Eldredge :
> "Dave F." wrote:
>> On 31/08/2011 02:04, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>> > I encourage use of this type of tag /primarily/ on /nodes/.
>> > The boundaries in most case are far too fluid to use this on areas.
>> I tend to agree with Bryce. Quite often in the UK there are
>> d
First off, I like this proposal too and think it's a long time coming.
But, some references made me go and read the place=suburb wiki page again,
and that tag seems very similar, so can that distinction be clarified? That
is, why would one choose suburb over city/town/village or neighbourhood?
Th
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:43 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> "Dave F." wrote:
>
>> On 31/08/2011 02:04, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>> > I encourage use of this type of tag /primarily/ on /nodes/.
>> > The boundaries in most case are far too fluid to use this on areas.
>>
>> I tend to agree with Bryce. Qu
2011/8/31 Brad Neuhauser :
> First off, I like this proposal too and think it's a long time coming.
>
> But, some references made me go and read the place=suburb wiki page again,
> and that tag seems very similar, so can that distinction be clarified? That
> is, why would one choose suburb over ci
I thought the issue was that there are two distinct concepts:
boundaries, where there is some legal distinction and a precise edge
place names, which have more or less indistinct boundaries.
In my area, towns have boundaries, and there are village centers that
have names like "West Acton"
On 8/31/2011 8:35 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
I thought the issue was that there are two distinct concepts:
boundaries, where there is some legal distinction and a precise edge
place names, which have more or less indistinct boundaries.
In my area, towns have boundaries, and there are villa
2011/8/31 Greg Troxel :
> I thought the issue was that there are two distinct concepts:
> boundaries, where there is some legal distinction and a precise edge
+1
> place names, which have more or less indistinct boundaries.
just because they have no legal status does not mean there aren't
d
* Martin Koppenhoefer [2011-08-30 17:01 +0200]:
> Waiting for comments especially for the aspect, that you could apply
> this tag to all kind of settlement fractions including commercial and
> industrial (and of course mixed) areas. I guess the wording
> "neighbourhood" does suggest other.
The pr
* Martin Koppenhoefer [2011-08-31 14:33 +0200]:
> No, suburb is actually not necessarily outside the city (in OSM), it
> is used for central districts as well.
I've often been confused by the suburb tag and maybe someone can clear it
up for me.
The tags place=city, place=town, place=village, and
* Nathan Edgars II [2011-08-31 08:50 -0400]:
> There's a third possibility - the unincorporated suburb or exurb
> that nevertheless has a defined boundary, since it's planned or
> controlled by one company. I think Columbia, Maryland is this way
It is. Additionally, Columbia could benefit a lot
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 01:38:48PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> please have a glimpse at those additional barrier values and details.
> The proposal is a little bit older and I will bring this to voting
> soon:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_barrier_types
I think
2011/8/31 Phil! Gold :
> * Martin Koppenhoefer [2011-08-31 14:33 +0200]:
>> No, suburb is actually not necessarily outside the city (in OSM), it
>> is used for central districts as well.
>
> I've often been confused by the suburb tag and maybe someone can clear it
> up for me.
>
> The tags place=c
Nathan Edgars II writes:
> On 8/31/2011 8:35 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
>>
>> I thought the issue was that there are two distinct concepts:
>>
>>boundaries, where there is some legal distinction and a precise edge
>>
>>place names, which have more or less indistinct boundaries.
>>
>>
>> In m
Martin Koppenhoefer writes:
> 2011/8/31 Greg Troxel :
>> place names, which have more or less indistinct boundaries.
>
> just because they have no legal status does not mean there aren't
> distinct limits. Usually / often there are. There can be natural
> limits (cliffs, rivers, lakes, woods, .
One thing adding to the confusion is that suburb has different definitions
at different places on the wiki. Based on this conversation, here's what
I'm hearing: "A named area within a city, town or possibly village that is
generally larger than a neighbourhood, and may contain multiple
neighbourho
2011/8/31 ael :
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 01:38:48PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> please have a glimpse at those additional barrier values and details.
>> The proposal is a little bit older and I will bring this to voting
>> soon:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_
A name to use for tagging stony ground.
I am looking for a denomination to use for an area that have little or no
vegetation so that the stony ground shows. Could there be a tag describing
everything from coarse gravel, boulders, scree to exposed bedrock.
I have earlier looked for a name for area
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 06:43 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> The same situations occur in the USA. Neighborhood names can also
> shift over time. My neighborhood shows up on maps as "Murray
> Heights", probably dating back to the original real-estate development
> in the 1950's. In the 19 years
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 19:29 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Yes, I see this basically the same. Someone else put them and I kept
> them because it does not really matter to me, if someone bothers to
> tag them that way, they can do it. cable_barrier seems to be a variety
> of guard_rail but ma
Currently, when we search 'quarter' in the wiki, we are redirected to 'suburb':
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Quarter&redirect=no
Pieren
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On 08/31/2011 10:50 AM, Johan Jönsson wrote:
A name to use for tagging stony ground.
I am looking for a denomination to use for an area that have little or no
vegetation so that the stony ground shows. Could there be a tag describing
everything from coarse gravel, boulders, scree to exposed bedro
On 08/31/2011 06:03 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/8/31 Greg Troxel:
I thought the issue was that there are two distinct concepts:
boundaries, where there is some legal distinction and a precise edge
place names, which have more or less indistinct boundaries.
just because they have no
On 08/31/2011 02:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/8/31 Bryce Nesbitt:
I'm a city dweller. We have some (and will soon have some very prominent)
rooftop parks.
That's fine, you can tag them with leisure=park (or maybe
leisure=garden, and garden:type)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag
I've often been confused by the suburb tag and maybe someone can clear it
up for me.
The tags place=city, place=town, place=village, and place=hamlet are
mutually exclusive; if a spot is in a place=village, then it's not in an
adjacent place=town. It seems to be that place=suburb is re
On 8/31/2011 1:50 PM, Johan Jönsson wrote:
A name to use for tagging stony ground.
I am looking for a denomination to use for an area that have little or no
vegetation so that the stony ground shows. Could there be a tag describing
everything from coarse gravel, boulders, scree to exposed bedrock
Brad,
Where I live, suburbs are well known, have fixed borders (though they
can be and are sometimes adjusted), and are part of your address
according to the post office and local government. They are part of a
larger residential area, which may be a city or town. Villages don't
have multiple sub
On 8/31/2011 9:27 PM, Stephen Hope wrote:
Brad,
Where I live, suburbs are well known, have fixed borders (though they
can be and are sometimes adjusted), and are part of your address
according to the post office and local government.
In the US, the problem is that address place names depend on
In Australia (and New Zealand) a suburb is a named, legally defined
area that is part of your address. It is usually (always?) smaller
than a local government area (My local government, Moreton Bay Shire,
has 25-30 suburbs, could be more). The borders are routinely shown on
street maps, or the name
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 21:41 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 8/31/2011 9:27 PM, Stephen Hope wrote:
> > Brad,
> >
> > Where I live, suburbs are well known, have fixed borders (though they
> > can be and are sometimes adjusted), and are part of your address
> > according to the post office and lo
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 21:41 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> Many suburban areas outside Orlando city limits have
> Orlando in the address, and there are some cases where a place in city A
> uses an address that is not city A.
i'd argue that this is common. when the US post office sets up routes,
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