More I read other people arguments, more I want to support shop=seafood.
I would say someone create proposal feature wiki page for it and we wote.
Cheers,
Peter.
2010/5/4 Alan Mintz :
> So, we have some objection to shop=fishmonger, and more support for
> shop=fish and shop=seafood. Do we vote o
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On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:39 PM, John Smith wrote:
>
>... It's a big world out there and there is bound to be grey areas
> that local knowledge will tags things one way or the other...
"There is bound to be grey areas" only if we continue to use these
tags as currently def
On 4 May 2010 18:14, Roy Wallace wrote:
> 1) allow for the specification of more than one type simultaneously,
> e.g. amenity=A;B, amenity=B;C, etc., or
> 2) change/specify in more detail the definitions of A, B and C so that
> they *are* mutually exclusive, or
> 3) be forced to tag things incorr
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:22 AM, John Smith wrote:
>
> Do you have any concrete examples?
>
> Most McDonald's "restaurants" have tables and sit down areas, but we
> tag them as fast food because that is the politically correct way to
> refer to junk food...
>
>
The discussions have been very helpfu
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
> More I read other people arguments, more I want to support shop=seafood.
>
> I would say someone create proposal feature wiki page for it and we wote.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter.
>
>
I would support either shop=seafood or shop=fish and also be o
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 02:08:01PM +0100, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
>
> In the UK a "fish shop" can be one of two,
three
> usually mutually exclusive, things:
>
> * A fishmonger, selling wet (i.e. raw) fish and seafood
> * A Fish and Chip shop, selling cooked fast food
* A shop selling live fish
On 5 May 2010 01:24, Stephen Gower wrote:
> Those calling for shop=fish rather than shop=fishmonger - what would you use
> for
> the pet fish shop?
How many pet shops would there be that only sell fish?
I'm guessing a small minority at best, but this would be better as a
sub tag of a pet shop..
At 2010-05-04 05:42, Katie Filbert wrote:
>Some of the inconsistencies I found in the Washington DC area were with my
>own edits :() In my earlier edits, I regarded places like Chipotle and
>even Subway as restaurants. Although healthier, I now definitely regard
>Subway as fast food and in mo
At 2010-05-04 08:24, Stephen Gower wrote:
>Those calling for shop=fish rather than shop=fishmonger - what would you
>use for
>the pet fish shop?
I've been using shop=pet. I suppose you could get more specific by adding a
species or type key.
--
Alan Mintz
* Alan Mintz [2010-05-04 09:47 -0700]:
> I generally regard fast_food as a place where you have to walk up to a
> counter and order your food. Even if they do bring it out to your table
> when ready, they will not generally come back to refill your drinks or
> bring additional courses. Tips are
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Phil! Gold wrote:
> * Alan Mintz [2010-05-04 09:47 -0700]:
>> I generally regard fast_food as a place where you have to walk up to a
>> counter and order your food. Even if they do bring it out to your table
>> when ready, they will not generally come back to refil
On 5 May 2010 09:22, Steve Bennett wrote:
> (Just to make life even hearder: is McCafe a cafe or fast food?)
Maybe it's all three at the same time...
Does it have a sit down and eat area restaurant
Is the food delievered in less than 5 minutes (usually)... fast_food
Is there a distinctive "c
At 2010-05-04 12:04, Phil! Gold wrote:
>* Alan Mintz [2010-05-04 09:47 -0700]:
> > I generally regard fast_food as a place where you have to walk up to a
> > counter and order your food. Even if they do bring it out to your table
> > when ready, they will not generally come back to refill your dri
John Smith writes:
> On 5 May 2010 09:22, Steve Bennett wrote:
>> (Just to make life even hearder: is McCafe a cafe or fast food?)
>
> Maybe it's all three at the same time...
>
> Does it have a sit down and eat area restaurant
> Is the food delievered in less than 5 minutes (usually)... fa
Alan Mintz writes:
> At the risk of bringing up the ambiguous meaning of "cafe" discussion again
> :) I'm using cafe for coffee-houses like Starbucks, with very limited,
> usually pre-made, offerings like sandwiches and pastries.
I think that's the right call. Starbuck's is primarily about c
On 5 May 2010 11:15, Greg Troxel wrote:
> Would you call dunkin donuts "fast food"? I do, because I get more of a
> "megacorp volume" feel than a "quality food" feel there. I think most
I think you are being a tad bias, since small corner stores in
Australia sell fast food of lesser quality tha
John Smith writes:
> On 5 May 2010 11:15, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> Would you call dunkin donuts "fast food"? I do, because I get more of a
>> "megacorp volume" feel than a "quality food" feel there. I think most
>
> I think you are being a tad bias, since small corner stores in
> Australia sell
At 2010-05-04 18:15, Greg Troxel wrote:
>Alan Mintz writes:
>
> > At the risk of bringing up the ambiguous meaning of "cafe" discussion
> again
> > :) I'm using cafe for coffee-houses like Starbucks, with very limited,
> > usually pre-made, offerings like sandwiches and pastries.
>
>I think that
On 5 May 2010 11:36, Greg Troxel wrote:
> Fair enough. If you judge on food quality and "is food presented faster
> than it could reasonably be preparted" then I think we're in closer
> agreement.
My point was, we shouldn't base a tagging criteria other than
operator=*, just because a company is
On 5 May 2010 11:37, Alan Mintz wrote:
> I'd actually prefer something like shop=donut to cafe, since it seems that
Isn't cafe a French word for coffee?
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On 5/4/10 9:51 PM, John Smith wrote:
> On 5 May 2010 11:36, Greg Troxel wrote:
>
>> Fair enough. If you judge on food quality and "is food presented faster
>> than it could reasonably be preparted" then I think we're in closer
>> agreement.
>>
> My point was, we shouldn't base a tagging
On 5 May 2010 11:58, Richard Welty wrote:
> perhaps we need
>
> crap=yes
To be more effective, and less subjective, you will probably need
sub-tagging to define who it's crap too
crap:snobby_elite=yes
crap:student=no
crap:homeless=no
etc...
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On 5/4/10 10:34 PM, John Smith wrote:
> On 5 May 2010 11:58, Richard Welty wrote:
>
>> perhaps we need
>>
>> crap=yes
>>
> To be more effective, and less subjective, you will probably need
> sub-tagging to define who it's crap too
>
> crap:snobby_elite=yes
> crap:student=no
> crap:homele
On 5 May 2010 12:51, Richard Welty wrote:
> crap:mega=yes
>
> as well.
That doesn't make any sense...
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On 5/4/10 11:15 PM, John Smith wrote:
> On 5 May 2010 12:51, Richard Welty wrote:
>
>> crap:mega=yes
>>
>> as well.
>>
> That doesn't make any sense...
>
lots and lots of crap: mega crap
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Yes, that is the origin of the term. However, usage of words shifts over time,
often into multiple meanings, depending upon context. From what I have heard,
a "coffeehouse" in Amsterdam, Holland, now means a place that sells marijuana,
not one that sells coffee.
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John F. Eldredge -- j...@j
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:19 AM, John Smith wrote:
>
> On 5 May 2010 09:22, Steve Bennett wrote:
> > (Just to make life even hearder: is McCafe a cafe or fast food?)
>
> Maybe it's all three at the same time...
>
> Does it have a sit down and eat area restaurant
> Is the food delievered in le
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Roy Wallace wrote:
> Is there anything wrong with using:
> "amenity=cafe;fast_food;restaurant"? If not, that approach, plus those
One problem would be the conversion of such a thing to GPS formats. I
guess you could stack three POIs in one place, but it wouldn't be
On 5 May 2010 14:26, Roy Wallace wrote:
> Is there anything wrong with using:
> "amenity=cafe;fast_food;restaurant"? If not, that approach, plus those
It's rarely a good idea to jam tags together into a single key like
that, most applications have enough trouble with the complexities of
single ke
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
>
> The entire reason such tagging is useful (vs. amenity=food) is that
> people can ask "find me a nearby cafe". When I ask that, I want a
> coffee shop that serves sandwiches, or a sandwich shop that serves
> coffee, or something like that --
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:32 PM, John Smith wrote:
>
> It would be better to tag the primary function of a business, and add
> modifiers...
So amenity=fast_food + cafe=yes would be roughly equivalent to
amenity=cafe + fast_food=yes? Interesting proposal. It seems like a
plausible workaround for in
On 5 May 2010 14:39, Roy Wallace wrote:
> So amenity=fast_food + cafe=yes would be roughly equivalent to
> amenity=cafe + fast_food=yes? Interesting proposal. It seems like a
> plausible workaround for indicating a plurality of amenity=* values
> without resorting to a semicolon-delimited list - t
At 2010-05-04 21:32, John Smith wrote:
>...
>amenity=fast_food
>cafe=yes/no
>seating/resturant=yes/no
>drive_through=yes/no
I've been using motorcar=yes/no for drive-through, similar to access. This
did require tweaking of the rendering style in JOSM, which had this tag too
far up in position (a
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:22 PM, John Smith wrote:
> On 4 May 2010 18:14, Roy Wallace wrote:
>> 1) allow for the specification of more than one type simultaneously,
>> e.g. amenity=A;B, amenity=B;C, etc., or
>> 2) change/specify in more detail the definitions of A, B and C so that
>> they *are* m
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