Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:10 AM, John Smith wrote: > > I don't see an overly compelling reason to change the existing tag, Me either. In my previous post I was actually trying to point out the problems with the landuse tag, rather than advocate it. I think natural=beach is fine to describe an ar

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 11 April 2010 20:40, Roy Wallace wrote: > Surely these should be tagged golf_course=bunker, or something. I was hoping for something a little more generic since you can also have beach volley ball areas that are no where near beaches, there is also sand in deserts, and sand dunes that aren't d

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/4/11 John Smith : > On 11 April 2010 20:40, Roy Wallace wrote: >> Surely these should be tagged golf_course=bunker, or something. > > I was hoping for something a little more generic since you can also > have beach volley ball areas that are no where near beaches, there is > also sand in dese

[Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at fast food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru (and sometimes also oneway=yes since it seems that the implicit vs. explicit tags debate is not yet done). Does anybody think that this is a good idea that can be

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 01:36, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at fast > food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru (and sometimes > also oneway=yes since it seems that the implicit vs. explicit tags debate is No idea if t

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:46 AM, John Smith wrote: > On 12 April 2010 01:36, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at > fast > > food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru (and > sometimes > > also oneway=yes since it

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Anthony wrote: > > I have indeed tagged a couple of these, using "highway=service, > service=drive-through, access=private, oneway=yes". > > highway=service + oneway=yes + access=destination Pieren ___ Tagging mailing l

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 01:56, Anthony wrote: > In my experience the oneway is usually explicit, as there are arrows on the > ground. junction=roundabout implies oneway=yes, which is why you don't need to add a oneway tag as well. ___ Tagging mailing list Tag

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:13 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 12 April 2010 01:56, Anthony wrote: > > In my experience the oneway is usually explicit, as there are arrows on > the > > ground. > > junction=roundabout implies oneway=yes, which is why you don't need to > add a oneway tag as well. > Ah,

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 02:33, Anthony wrote: > Now, if we really want to start a flame war, maybe I should ask whether or > not to include "bicycle=no" :). While your comment is tongue in cheek, most drive throughs have height/width restrictions and usually don't allow towed vehicles to be taken throug

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:18 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 11 April 2010 20:40, Roy Wallace wrote: >> Surely these should be tagged golf_course=bunker, or something. > > I was hoping for something a little more generic Suggestions? As is, you can't use surface because that's only for "roads/footpa

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at fast > food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru I've done similar, though I've used "service=drivethru". Adding oneway=yes can't hurt. Would b

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 07:50, Roy Wallace wrote: > Suggestions? As is, you can't use surface because that's only for > "roads/footpaths" (although strangely it's also used for Why does the surface tag have to be limited to roads/footpaths? > leisure=pitch's - seems the wiki needs updating). And landus

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread Steve Doerr
From: "John Smith" > I was hoping for something a little more generic since you can also > have beach volley ball areas that are no where near beaches, there is > also sand in deserts, and sand dunes that aren't desert but aren't > part of a beach either. Sand is not a necessary element of a bea

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 09:09, Steve Doerr wrote: > Sand is not a necessary element of a beach in any case. In fact, the > original meaning of 'beach' was: 'The loose water-worn pebbles of the > sea-shore; shingle.' All this means is that sand is assumed, since natural=beach renders as a yellow colour.

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Pieren wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Anthony wrote: > >> >> I have indeed tagged a couple of these, using "highway=service, >> service=drive-through, access=private, oneway=yes". >> >> > highway=service + oneway=yes + access=destination > > Pieren >

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar > wrote: > > > > For a while now, I've been drawing and tagging drive through lanes at > fast > > food restaurants with highway=service and service=drive_thru > > I've done similar, though

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 13:49, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Since a couple of people mentioned that service=drive-through is a good > value, then I'd go for this value too for consistency. If you want to be consistent, use underscores not hyphens, eg service=drive_through __

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:04 AM, John Smith wrote: > > On 12 April 2010 07:50, Roy Wallace wrote: >> Suggestions? As is, you can't use surface because that's only for >> "roads/footpaths" (although strangely it's also used for > > Why does the surface tag have to be limited to roads/footpaths? I

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread Stephen Hope
It sounds to me like we're getting back to the old argument about the difference between land-use and land-cover. Unfortunately, tags for both have been lumped together into landuse=*, (as well as some natural, man-made etc) which is why the debate reoccurs so often. Sand is a cover, not a use. S

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 14:20, Roy Wallace wrote: > Good point. I assume you disagree with the use of landuse=grass, then? > (which is listed at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landuse) It seems inconsistent with other landuses such as residential, industrial, commercial etc. > Well, the wiki page f

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 15:05, Stephen Hope wrote: > My personal opinion is that we should separate out the cover tags from > landuse into some other tag (doesn't have to be landcover). Not > because this is required, or it for easier searching, though they may > be side benefits. Simply because having